Handwriting help, please

[Gadget]

Yes it said that she was wife of a gardener in the 1851. The Somerset birth might have been another one - i was seeing so many Jane's and my eyes were going bananas on my laptop - not good. 

Gadget

[carol8353]

Oops where did I put me glasses  Oh yes gardener- so it does 

We had a power cut here earlier,cos of the bad weather,and now I'm quite tired,having to make dinner on just gas rings and no oven!

And it's still so flipping hot too.

I'm off to bed now 

Carol

bananas on your laptop- hmmm !!!

[Gadget]

Well Carol - only an hour or so - I'm an expert at power cuts. We have them for 2-3 days up here 

I'm now starting to get concerned about who we are looking for - the married couple's births or the witnesses 

I think I'll wait for Ewan to decide.

Gadget - back on her laptop 

[throckenholt]

glad you are making progress.

In response to your query about Great Grimsby (now probably redundant) - Grimsby is on the east coast, in north Lincolnshire, Lancashire is on the west coast, so definitely NOT near to each other, and unlikely to be the relevant connection.

Happy hunting.

[Gadget]

Having read through the whole thread again, I think we are looking for a relationship, if any, between the witnesses and the couple, so that we might find something more about the couple.

Is that so Ewan?

We have a possible connection between the second witness - a Jean/Jane Heather - and Thomas Davis. She and her husband are living in 1841 close to where Thomas and Maria are living  in the 1851. Thomas and Richard Heather are both employed in the brewing industry. The Heathers are in Chiswick in the 1851. The Lewis family (Maria) are in Chiswick in 1841 also. A bit like changing places!

So far we haven't found Daniel. Might it be worth having a look around Hogarth Place or Chiswick for him?

Does anyone know anything about the brewing trade/industry in that area in the 1840s?

This is getting to be more like a pint in that jazz pub in Barnes that I used to frequent (was it the Bull?) than a cup of tea at Ewan's

Gadget

[carol8353]

Hi Gadget

I imagine Ewan might be at work,so permit me to answer for him(as I suggested witness links to him in the first place  )

Yes that is exactly what we need- a way of finding out where Maria Lewis is in 1841- the marr cert of 1843 has her dad Henry as deceased-(oops no he's not- see below!) and it proving impossible to trace her as her place of birth the 1851 and 1871 censuses is impossible to read.

Thomas was married before and in 1841 is living with wife number 1.So we have found him but not Maria.

I've tried 1841 for Daniel Roth* and can't see anyone that fits the bill(have also tried Both* just incase.

With enough heads together we might just crack this......and then it'll be champagne and caviar round Ewans...............is that okay mate? 

Carol

[Gadget]

Hi Carol

I've added an alternative venue to Ewan's tea party in my previous posting 

Do you have the refs for the 1851 and 1871 so that I can have a look at Maria's birthplace please. I could look but it would be quicker with the refs.

Thanks.

Gadget - still on laptop - too hot already in computer room - now attached a mouse!

[Ewan]

Hello Hello

I just can't keep up with you experts, as fast as I am trying to digest your ideas, there is more to read  FANTASTIC.

I was going to say as we have established names of the witnesses, it is a
case of hunting them down in censuses to see if there is a connection.  Exactly what you have been doing between you.

Did you see the thread about the other Lewis family from The Mall Chiswick, could it be coincidence that a Maria Lewis living with other Lewises or could she be related in any way?

Carol, just to mention, on the Maria Lewis of 1843 marriage certificate it doesn't say that her dad, Henry, was deceased.

You're right this is getting more like a pint than a cup of tea.  So if this is cracked I will do cartwheels, mow the lawn and get down and buy some caviar.

What could be revealed by finding out about the brewing trade etc in the 1840s?
Perhaps I could try and follow that lead.

I did have a cousin that actually worked in that brewery (Fullers)

Thanks again
Ewan

[Gadget]

Hi Ewan

Inspectors Carol and Gadget are on the case - PMing  - I was going to have a look for Henry this minute!
When did Maria die - found an interesting widow on the 1881 but she says born Barnet, Hertfordshire 

Gadget