GRIEVESON - Are these different people?

[dustfairy]

Hi

I am currently looking into my GRIEVESON family. My great great grandmother is a Mary GRIEVESON born 1846, her parents are a John and Mary. This is the correct spelling of the surname, or so I have been told by relatives. Though I know the spelling as varied on different census records.  I have got a marriage certificate and a birth certificate and found the family on all the census records, but the occupation of John Grieveson are different.  Would like some help or advice in finding which is correct, unless they could all be, but I think I may have purchased the wrong birth certificate.  Details are below

Marriage certificate.

My great great grandparents:

James Johnson and Mary Greveson married in Chester le Street, in 1872, both living in Pelton Fell, father of James Johnson is John Johnson and his occupation is a cowkeeper.  Father of Mary Greveson is John Greveson and his occupation is a ROAD MAN.

I believe this certificate to be correct, as date, place, names all fit and John Johnson the cowkeeper was a cowkeeper in the 1871 census.  The surname of GRIEVESON is spelt differently, and the occupation of John Greveson is different to the census, and birth certificate.

The census records for Mary Grievesons  father John are as follows: (Spelt surname as per census record)

1841

John Greveson  age 25 living Pelton Fell, occupation Waggonsman

1851

John Greavson age 37 living Pelton Level, occupation Wagon rider

1861

John Guevson age 47 living Pelton Level, occupation Railway Gate Keeper

1871

John Grieveson age 57 living Pelton Level, occupation Railway Gate Keeper

1881

John Grievson  age 67 living Pelton Level, occupation Railway Gate Keeper


The birth certificate I have got of Mary Grieveson is as follows

Mary Grieveson born Chester le Street, in March 1846, father John Grieveson living Pelton Level occupation FIREMAN

So the confusion is how John can be a wagonsman in 1841, then when his daughter  Mary was born be a Fireman in 1846, then be a Railway Gate Keeper, in 1861,1871, then a road man in 1872, when Mary got married, then a Railway Gate Keeper again in 1881.

Could John have had 3 occupations, or is the birth certificate someone else. Another Mary with same surname, same place, same birth year, and same parents.

Or should I try and locate the census records for a John Grieveson who was the fireman, to try and eliminate him.

If you weren't confused before, you are now I bet!!!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated, as cannot go any further.

Janette

 

[dustfairy]

Hi to all who are reading the above message.

I think that the birth certificate for Mary Grieveson, could possibly be correct, as I have found Mary Grieveson born 1846 on the 1851 census with a James Bamborough and a Dorothy.  Mary Grieveson listed as being the cousin.

Got the marriage of James Bamborough and Dorothy Heslop in 1850.

The Birth certificate for Mary Grieveson as her parents as a John Grieveson and a Mary Heslip.  So this certificate could be correct and has missplelt the mothers surname as Heslip and should be Heslop.

So maybe I have everything correct after all.  Will look for the marriage of a John Grieveson to a Mary Heslop/Heslip to confirm it.

Janette

[fred21]

Hi 

the Grieveson family can get very muddled as there are 2 John Grieveson both married to a Mary and at the same time and in the same area.

I had to recently untangle a bit of mess that someone else had created because they got them all confused.

How to tell them apart is through the census as 1 John Grieveson is born in London and the other in Durham - also their occupations are quite different so that helps too.

Your John Grieveson was born in Durham c1814 and married Mary Heslop in 1836 in Monkwearmouth, Durham

They had the following children:
Margaret born c1837 in Chester-le-Street, Durham
Robert born c1839 in Chester-le-Street, Durham
Jane born c1844 in Pelton Fell, Durham
Mary born c1846 in Pelton, Durham
John born c1848 in Pelton, Durham
William born c1851 in Pelton Fell, Durham
Thomas born c1856 in Pelton died 1930 in Queensland, Australia

They family are very hard to following due to the various different way their last name is spelt and due to the other family who seem to have lived in the same area and who had some children with the same names and even similar ages.

I've managed to separate them all so far until  more can be found out for certain.

Hope this helps

[rosie99]

Dustfairy has not been on here since 2010 and I notice that their emails are not working according to their profile so you may not get a reply to your post.