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Ibbetson in 1841
« on: Friday 30 June 06 05:24 BST (UK) »
Is there any sign of my 3Xg grandfather John Ibbetson (Ibbison, Hibbison, etc) in the 1841 census please?

He was born in Thirlby in 1824 and I think he was one of several illegitimate children of Ann Ibbetson. (On his marriage certificate he named his father as Harry Clayton.)

By 1851 John was married and living in Thirsk and I suspect that in 1841 he would be living somewhere around Thirsk, Thirlby, Boltby, Felixkirk. He was an ag lab / farm labourer.
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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 June 06 06:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Saar

Living in Oz, my Yorkshire geography is basically NIL, so I'm not sure if I am in the right location - but this one looks a possibility (noting all ages were rounded down to nearest 5) - the occupation doesn't look correct, however.

Hannah Ibetson 40
James     do   20 Wollen weaver
Jane      do   20 F.S.
John      do   15 Wollen Weaver
All born in County
Place is given as Havercroft Town Batley  Yorkshire

HO107/1267/5  Folio 4 Page 1
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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 June 06 07:06 BST (UK) »
HI Trish

Many thanks.

No, I don't think it could be my family - too far away.
I am just about certain that my John would be in the North Riding - probably working somewhere as an ag lab.

He might be as far away as say Helmsley but probably in one of the villages round Thirsk.

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Mary

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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 June 06 08:54 BST (UK) »
I didn't see anyone else that was very likely - someone who knows the area may do better - sorry about that

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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 June 06 12:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks for checking.

Ann had 2 other sons baptised at Felixkirk - James in 1818 and Robert in 1820.

Is there any sign of them in 1851. Birthplace probably Thirlby or Boltby or possibly Thirsk?
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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 June 06 13:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Saar

I've been watching Tvvv - will have a look for you  - watch this space

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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 June 06 13:15 BST (UK) »
I can't find anything  vaguely close - except the first one I gave you. Do you have the reference for John that you found in 1851? I can't even find it. If I can look at that, it may give me some searching ideas. When was Ann born? I can't find her either?

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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 June 06 15:58 BST (UK) »
Found John (Ibetson) in the 1851 census index for Thirsk - age down as 23 and with Katherine aged 21 born Kirby Wiske. Don't have full reference but Folio is 294

In 1861 he was living in Newsham near Kirby Wiske age down as 35 and surname spelt Hibbison. Wife Catherine aged 32 was with him together with children Ellen, Elizabeth, James, Martha and Catherine.

But don't know anything about  Ann except that she had 5 children baptised at Feixkirk.

When John married at Felixkirk in 1849 he was living in Boltby which is not far from Thirlby, the small village that he gave as his birthplace in 51, 61 and 71. (He died in 1880)

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Mary
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Re: Ibbetson in 1841
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 July 06 01:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary

No wonder I had a few problems - 1851 I found John Pbetson - but the birthplace etc was correct - I should have found him before. Always tricky when the first letter changes. I'll keep looking  :) - Will attempt to learn about Yorkshire - I have one relative from Cawood - but left there in 1767  :)

This is the reference for John & Katherine 1851
HO107/2371  Fol 294 page 39 - in case you didn't have all the details - living at St James Green, both Ag Labs - and the I does look like a P  :)

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