Tomkinson

[juliefran]

Looking for any help in trying to find John Tomkinson born 1829 in Newcastle Upon Tyne,hoping to find out where I can obtain baptism/christening records of John.
His parents are John Tomkinson and Mary Rider.
Needing all the help I can get thank you.

[walkerlad]

hello julie
this is annoying, as i have just thrown away all records for the tomkinson family as i did the research for a friend of mine last year, i will see if i can retreive them from him.
his family are called tomkinson/ tompkinson from walker in newcastle and the rider name comes into the family
give me your details and i will do the research for them as i i should be able to do it quickly, because i remember the family

regards
michael

[juliefran]

Hi Michael,
Thanks for your reply,appreciate any help I can get.
I have a John Tomkinson born 2oth September 1850 in Walker Northumberland,he married a Mary Wilkie in 1874 in Lanark Scotland. His father is John Tomkinson born 1829 in Newcastle Upon Tyne and he married a Mary Lister in 1849 in Walker Northumberland. His father is the John Tomkinson born?? and his wife either Mary Rider or Elizabeth Mary Rider born ?? I am after whatever I can find,I was after a baptism/christening certificate for John born 1829 but no one seems to know where I have to go for this. I am in Australia so do not know a lot about the countys or parishes.Appreciate your help. Regards
Julie

[walkerlad]

hello julie
i am looking at your tree now, can you send me a personal message and i will give you my email address.
you say john was born 20sep1850 do you have his birth certificate, if so can you tell me what the mothers name is on the certificate.
there seems to be 2 brothers living in the same area, john tomkinson 1801 and richard tomkinson 1806 and there are 2 john's i need to find out which is which.

regards
michael

[Helen K]

Hi Michael

I've very recently sent Julie Census entries for the TOMKINSON families of Walker.

Julie had confirmed she already had the 1851 Census entry for John, Mary and baby John.  John's parents John (born 1801) and Elizabeth are living next door.

Census entries indicate that John (born 1801) and John (born 1829) were both born in Staffordshire.

Regards

Helen K 

[walkerlad]

hello helen
i am trying to establish how she has went back to 1829 because there are 2 john tomkinson born 1829 in bilston, staffordshire and both lived in walker, newcastle
one was born to john tomkinson and the other to richard tomkinson and both fathers are living in the same street in 1851.
can she confirm that john born 1829 father was called john or richard.

ps  i live in walker, newcastle were the tomkinson lived

[Helen K]

Hi Michael

Julie originally told me that she had John (born 1829) on the 1851 Census with wife Mary and baby John.

The other John, son of Richard, was still living with his parents in 1851.

From there I gave Julie the 1841 Census entry when John (born 1829) was living with his parents John and Elizabeth.

I don't know if Julie has John's (1829) marriage certificate to prove his father was also John.

Julie still seems to think that John (1829) was born in Newcastle, but Census entries record Staffordshire which is where she should be looking for his baptism.

Regards

Helen K

 

[walkerlad]

hi helen
i wish i never started this 
yes she has it wrong, the son john 1850 was born newcastle and the parents are married 1849 in newcastle
the marriage certificate would answer the question who is the father. i need to trace how she went back to the 1851 census, but i cannot find john and mary in the 1861-71 census as yet, but i am still looking.

i did the research on this family last year for a friend and he is linked to richard tomkinson 1805 coseley, sedgley staffforshire and it looks like richard could be the brother of john 1801.
i wish julie would give me more details
i realise we are 8 hours ahead or behind.

regards
michael