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« Reply #117 on: Friday 14 October 05 10:30 BST (UK) »
jenn,

See the additions I have made to my earlier post.

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« Reply #118 on: Friday 14 October 05 10:32 BST (UK) »
HEY THERE jAP THANKS SAW THE POSTS REGARDS JENN
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
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BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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« Reply #119 on: Saturday 15 October 05 08:37 BST (UK) »
hi there JAP
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thomas bayley emmigrated to vvictoria in 1866 they had four children whose brithdates i would like
lydia elizabeth, thomas adams(he was born in 1843 by the info you gave me) joesph hatter, james mollineux. same as yours from the first familiy site thomas adams is my ggf brother he also went to victoria along with apassle of kidies
i do appreciate your help
regards jenn

Well jenn, it seems you will have to search in the UK for the birth dates of children of Thomas Adams BAYLEY and Martha SKELTON given that Martha was aged 48, and their youngest child was aged 9, when they migrated to Victoria in 1862 (NOT 1866).

On the 'Lightning' in Jun 1862 at:
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
were (all on page 6 of the relevant fiche, as you can see for yourself)
BAYLEY T A 46, Martha 48, Cath 17 (do you know anything about a Cath?), Joseph 17, John Hy 14, James 11, Annie 9
and also (all on page 2 of the relevant fiche, as you can see)
BAYLEY Mrs Sarah 40, Ann 18, Frances 15, Emma 13, Sarah 9, Elizth 6, Wm H 3, Mary 1
(is this family related?).

It seems that Lydia BAYLEY and Thomas Adams BAYLEY jnr did not migrate with their parents Thomas Adams BAYLEY and Martha (SKELTON) BAYLEY.  Do you know more about them?  I see that a Thomas Adams BAYLEY is listed on FreeBMD as having married in the Jun qtr 1863 in Blackburn, Lancashire; is this your Thomas?

We now have:

From the IGI at:
http://www.familysearch.org
Thomas Adams BAYLEY (father Thomas Adams) married Martha SKELTON (father John) in Heslington, Yorkshire, 4 Jun 1839
Also from FreeBMD at:
http://www.freebmd.rootsweb.com
A marriage for Thomas Adams BAYLEY is listed, Jun qtr 1839, York, Vol 23, page 569
There is also a marriage for a Martha SKELTON in York in the same quarter but there is an indication that there is something anomalous about it - the page number is given as 519 which is apparently not a page number for York; probably a transcription error of 519 instead of 569.

Known children of Thomas and Martha were:

*Lydia BAYLEY born ca 1840 in England
From http://freecen.rootsweb.com/
Lydia is listed as aged 1 and birthplace England in the 1841 Edinburgh census.
What happened to Lydia?

*Thomas Adams BAYLEY baptized 20 Feb 1842 Edinburgh
From the IGI
You will not find his birth as this was before Statutory Registration was introduced in Scotland (1855).  Probably he was born in Edinburgh but you would need to find him on the 1851 or 1861 census to check out his birthplace.
What happened to Thomas?

*Perhaps a Cath BAYLEY born ca 1845?
From the Unassisted Immigrants list on the 'Lightning' in 1862
It lists a Cath BAYLEY aged 17.

*Joseph Hater BAYLEY born Cheshire ca 1845
From the Unassisted Immigrants list on the 'Lightning' in 1862
It lists a Joseph BAYLEY aged 17
Also from the Victorian Deaths Index
It lists BAYLEY Joseph Hater, father Thomas Adams, mother Martha SKELTON, died, age 20, born CHES, 1864 #665

*John Henry BAYLEY born ca 1847
From the Unassisted Immigrants list on the 'Lightning' in 1862
It lists John Hy BAYLEY aged 14
Also from the Victorian Deaths Index
It lists BAYLEY Hy Jno, father Bayley Thos Adam, mother Martha SKELTON, died at ARM, age 88, in 1931, #7603
(Incidentally, this is probably Armadale, a suburb of Melbourne; note the spelling)

*James Molineux BAYLEY born ca 1851
From the Unassisted Immigrants list on the 'Lightning' in 1862
It lists James BAYLEY 11
And from FreeBMD
It lists James Molineux BAYLEY, birth Jun qtr 1850, Leeds Yorkshire, Vol 23, page 533.

*Annie Christina BAYLEY born ca 1853
From the Unassisted Immigrants list on the 'Lightning' in 1862
It lists Annie BAYLEY 9
And from FreeBMD
It lists Annie Christina BAYLEY, birth Mar qtr 1853, Liverpool Lancashire, Vol 8b, page 159

Let's hope someone can look up the other Victorian Indexes for the above people

Good luck,

JAP

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« Reply #120 on: Saturday 15 October 05 08:58 BST (UK) »
HI AND THANKS
got some of this

i have found him listed on the first families 2001 site
my gggf was John Bayley, thomas adams bro
he also emmigrated to victoria i dont know when though, he married Harriet Bryan in 1836 somerset he died in 1882 in victoria
his eldest daughter was Catherine so that might be her
?
jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au


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« Reply #121 on: Saturday 15 October 05 09:13 BST (UK) »
hi jap
i just checked my records and catherine bayley was 17 on the 1861 census
i know one that Martha bayley married Herron and they emmigrated to victoria the childrens names
martha r
catherin
charles a
henry martin my ggf
james w
lydia s
henrietta b
perhas thomas adams daughter lydia died hence john bayley calling his daughter lydia?
regards jenn

When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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« Reply #122 on: Saturday 15 October 05 09:26 BST (UK) »
hi there JAP
yes i do have that info for the hairs I am looking to see what happend sarah i can find nothing at all the family moved to adelong in nsw where they had a nother 6 kids phew thats hard work
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regards jenn

I note HAIRs with parents John and Agnes:
Born in Victoria (parents names listed as John HAIR and Agnes MORGAN):
*Robert 1861 (a Robert HAIR, parents John and Agnes, died 1895 Young, NSW)
*Bartholomew 1865 (a Bartholomew HAIR - this one? - married an Ellen HENNESSY in Cootamundra NSW in 1888)
*Samuel 1867 (a Samuel Geo HAIR, parents John HAIR and Agnes MORGAN, died 1933 Gborough, Vic)
*John 1869 (a John HAIR, parents John and Agnes, died 1924 Redfern, NSW)
*Sarah Ann 1871
*Patrick 1873
Born in NSW (parents names listed as John and Agnes):
*Agnes 1875
*James Edward 1877; James E died 1878 Adelong NSW
*Bertha J 1878
*William Henry 1880; William H died 1924 Cobar NSW
*Blanch M 1884, died 1884 Adelong NSW

Also:
*Jessie HAIR, parents John and Agnes, died 1918 Ashfield NSW
*Leopold Patrick HAIR, parents John and Agnes, died 1943 Burwood NSW (a Leopold P HAIR had married an Amy I MAYGER in 1901 at Orange NSW)

Perhaps someone else will find Sarah Ann HAIR somewhere in the various Australian indexes

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« Reply #123 on: Saturday 15 October 05 09:40 BST (UK) »
thanks again JAP
 yes i have done all the other brothers and sisters
SARAH ANN is the only one i can find no marriage or death for in nsw and victoria
regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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« Reply #124 on: Saturday 15 October 05 09:42 BST (UK) »
hi JAP i also got johns death certificate she was listed alive when he died in nsw
regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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« Reply #125 on: Sunday 16 October 05 08:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Alison4164,
I may have found the death of Edward Thomas Samuel for you, Ref #62189/1971 registered in Wollongong, NSW.  Father Thomas, Mother, Trifener Jane.

Mary Jessie Samuel, Ref #33978/1966 registered in Wollongong, NSW.  Father, William, Mother, Mary.

You can check for yourself on www.bdm.nsw.gov.au  and go to Historic Index Search.

No sign of William and Thyer up to 1974, maybe they moved interstate.
Cheers
Maur
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