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Re: 1841 census look up - BAUGH
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 21 April 10 17:47 BST (UK) »
I found John H's marriage to Mary Kenny on FreeBMD (limited search to all marriages in the uk between John Baugh's and Mary's (only 2 in the West Midlands - one in Wolverhampton who was a Mary Jane anyway, and the correct one in Walsall in December 1881). It also gives his middle name as Henry. I have also found the record on Ancestry (limited search to Walsall this time and found all marriages of John Baughs between 1870-1890 and none of the other records - 5 in total - matched).
 
I then tried to look for a census return in 1871 in walsall for a Mary Kenny who was born c1863 in Walsall. There was only one (born c1864). Her father Thomas was a labourer from Galway. Mary Ann was 7 on the 1871 census, but I have traced the family on the 1861 census also but no further than that. It's likely that they came over in the 1840s/1850s, along with many others fleeing the potato famine. I had wondered if there was an Irish connection somewhere, as Maureen (my partner John's mum) had said previously that her grandmother Annie Baugh (later Simmons) had spoken of one, although she had thought that it related to Annie herself. I am happy to send you copies of the census returns. I can send a copy of the marriage record too, although it doesn't give much information - I haven't ordered the certificate yet.

I will now try to send you the message I prepared earlier!

Jenny

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Re: 1841 census look up - BAUGH
« Reply #19 on: Friday 23 April 10 12:58 BST (UK) »
Just realised that in my first post I referred to Beriah's wife as Mary Ann - I meant Ann. Mary Ann was of course John H's wife!

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Re: 1841 census look up - BAUGH
« Reply #20 on: Monday 17 October 11 14:05 BST (UK) »
sorry this is a rather belated reply several years later! I came upon this randomly when looking for something else!   However it looks like the same Baughs are in my family tree.   Elizabeth Baugh (nee Griffiths)  b High Ercall in the 1851 census:

1851 census Dark Lane Row Dawley
Elizabeth Baugh head wid 49 b High Ercall.  Sarah Baugh dau 22 furnace work (coal) b Stirchley ..Beriah Baugh son 20 collier b Dawley.  ELizabeth Baugh dau 15 stone mining b Dawley.

Is my gggg grandmother. 

She was married to William Baugh and had as far as I know 6 children the eldest being Richard Baugh b abt 1822 There was a younger son Beriah b abt 1830, which is the one you were tracing.  I think their marriage may be the following:

extract from parish registers - Stemmata Botevilliana - 1821 May 7 marriage of William Baugh and Elizabeth Griffiths.   

Richard Baugh married Sarah Smart on 14 July 1844 and had one son John Ellis Baugh my gg grandfather.  I think both Richard and Sarah died before the 1851 census as they have proved untraceable  - I know that John Ellis Baugh lived with uncle and then grandmother when young.  He is living with Sarah Baugh (nee Griffiths) in 1861 in Dark Lane aged 12.

I have only recently identified the Sarah Baugh in the 1851 census above as the correct mother of Richard, the 1861 census helped to prove that, I have had to be careful as there were two Richard and Sarah Baughs of about a similar age living in the same area, same occupation!  (The other Sarah's maiden name was Blackmore) This second Richard and Sarah are the ones in the 1851 census:

Colliers Row Dawley parish Malins Lee
Richard Baugh head 33 collier b Dawley.  Sarah Baugh wife 31 b Dawley. Enoch Baugh son 10 collier b Dawley Beriah Baugh son collier 8 b Dawley Ann Baugh dau 1 b Dawley.

Its easy to mix the families up and get totally confused due to the similar names and my Richard and Sarah disappearing off the face of the earth!  It took quite a while to untangle it all.

This family may well be connected as Beriah keeps cropping up!!  However I dont know how as yet.  As you have found out there are loads of Baughs in this small area, I havent yet found a definite connection with others.

I unfortunately know nothing of Beriah except what I have found in the census returns.  However it is exciting to find a connection 'out there' as I have not found anything before.

If this reaches you I would love to get in touch and share further.
Best wishes
Rachel
Baugh Shropshire
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Re: 1841 census look up - BAUGH
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 10:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Rachel,
Yes, we are still here. Most of what you have mentioned I already have in my tree. You are right that it is very confusing with all the Baughs taking family names and many, many families in the same village. I actually went to Dawley in the summer but was very disappointed as there is so little left. I am sure you will be interested to see a video as it shows you Dark Lane and the miners cottages in the 1960's before they were all swept away for Telford New Town (search on Youtube) The end of the lane is still there but all the cottages have gone, however the ruin of Malinslee chapel was saved and rebuilt in the Town Park

I am curious about your connection with John Ellis Baugh as he married Rhoda Taylor and moved to Prescot in Lancashire near to where I live. His wife and 2 infants are buried in St Mary the Virgin in the town. He remarried Rebecca, a woman from Dawley (older than him) but I can find no children from that marriage and after she dies in 1900 he seems to be with a woman called Ellen whom he marries in 1903. He died in Prescot in 1930. Does your family come from this later marriage?
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Re: 1841 census look up - BAUGH
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 14:51 BST (UK) »
wow thanks for such a great reply!

Yes I have quite a bit of information about John Ellis Baugh as he is my direct ancestor and my connection to the Baughs.  In fact he is my gg grandfather.  These are my notes on him on my tree: however I cant copy and paste them and dont have an option to attach them for some reason.  PM me and I can send them separately by email.  Theres too much to type in all over again.

He had two surviving children, the daughter Edith Emily is my g grandmother on my mothers side and the family comes from Prescot although mum lives in Derbyshire.  How are you connected?  Is it via the Beriah Baugh that you were looking for all those years ago? 

I am interested about the two infants you mention buried in the churchyard.  I know there was a child died about the same time as Rhoda also named John Ellis Baugh - tragically died of TB of the stomach - commonly caught from drinking unpasturised cows milk.  I guess as his mother was so ill at the time she couldn't feed the baby herself.  She died of TB two weeks after the baby was born who also died at two months old.  JEB saw a lot of tragedy in his life, personal life and life as a miner.  There was a big mining accident in Pelsall colliery about the time they were living there, and mining accidents werent uncommon then anyway.  I dont know about the other infant.  Although my mother recalls being told that JEB and Rhoda had several children that didnt survive, however we dont know any more than that passed down through the family.

Yes I have seen the film on youtube about Dark Lane, absolutely fascinating.  I also ordered a book called Dark Lane the forgotten village, theres a rootschat thread about it.

Look forward to hearing from you.
Best wishes
Rachel
Baugh Shropshire
Featherstone & Gould Derbyshire
Meade Liverpool
Towle & Lowe Nottingham
Woodward & Mellor Belper area & Nottingham
Kent Risley & Nottingham
Collings Nottingham & Suffolk
Butcher Suffolk