Lookup Request - Parish Records - Williton or Wooten Courtney - PUGSLEY

[lvninthepast]

Hi!  I am trying to verify some information on the IGI that was submitted by a LDS Church Member.  I was hoping that someone might have access to the parish records for Wooten Courtney or Williton and could check for John Pugsley born about 1781; father of John is Richard Pugsley (taken from John's marriage registration in 1837).  Richard was a farmer.  If someone could check this for me, I would appreciate it.  I found some data on the IGI but I would really like to confirm that it is the right JOHN PUGSLEY (it is a very common name!!).  Many thanks! Rhondda

[Trevor Paul]

Hi Rhondda, I believe I have done look ups for you before.I have the Parish registers for Wooten Courtney, Selworthy, Cutcombe, Stoke Pero and Luccombe. There is no baptism for John in Wootton Courtney around 1781 but there is one in the Cutcombe registers for a John baptised 2 Mar 1785 son of Richard and Joney(could be Joan).  There are  many entries for the Pugsleys in  Cutcombe, Selworthy Luccombe  and Wootton Let me know if you need any other searches doing.  TrevorPaul

[Trevor Paul]

Just for your further information there is a John PUGSLEY baptised on 18 Nov 1781 at Cutcombe but he is son of John and Elizabeth. About the same time there is a couple called Richard and Joan PUGSLEY having children baptised in cutcombe.  TrevorPaul

[lvninthepast]

Hi TrevorPaul, I would love your help with my Pugsleys.  Yes you did help me before with them too.  I received copies of the marriage registry for John Pugsley and Elizabeth Adams for November 17, 1837.  They had both been widow/ers at the time of this marriage.   Elizabeth's maiden name was White (parents were Robert and Ann). 

My Pugsleys; however, come from John's first wife Elizabeth Pasmore.  I have not found her parents yet.  Also I have not been able to locate the family in the 1841 census.  Elizabeth (Pasmore) Pugsley passed away on November 22, 1843 in Cutcombe, Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England. 

The children I have listed for John and Elizabeth #1 were:
George (1800)
Charlotte (1804)
Harriet (1806)
James (1817)
Hannah (1819)
Fanny (1822)

My line stems from Hannah Pugsley who had the illegitimate son James Pugsley on September 22, 1842, in Wooten Courtney, Somerset, England.  I received his birth registry and the father space was left blank by Hannah.

Hannah married Joseph Poole and I have our family tree from there on forward.

So....on John Pugsley and Elizabeth #2's marriage registry, John indicated his father was Richard Pugsley.  I typed the information in the IGI and came up with a possible match of Richard Pugsley and Ellen who had a son named John around 1785 in Cutcombe, Somerset.

I also located a possible match for Richard's parents, on the IGI, as Samuel and Elizabeth, both of Cutcombe.

Here is my basic understanding of the tree information.  If you have spare time and would like to help me with some dates, etc. I would be very grateful. 

Samuel Pugsley (b. 1720 Cutcombe, married before 1741 Cutcombe, d. after 1757 Cutcombe) married
Elizabeth (b. 1720 Cutcombe, d. after 1757 Cutcombe)

Children (all born Cutcombe):
Ann (1741)
Joan (1744)
John (1746)
Samuel (1748)
William (1750)
Richard (1752) **
Thomas (1757- July 23, 1826)

I would be interested in any of their spouses/children if available too to try to find relatives of my line that may still be alive today if you come across them in your search.  It looks like someone might come from the 'Thomas line' as his death date was included in the IGI information.

Richard (1752 - 1831 Cutcombe):
Married to Joan (b 1755 Cutcombe) on March 27, 1779 (IGI data)

Children:

Richard (1783-1852), Joan (1797), Elizabeth (1800), Mary (1795), Robert (1787), George (1793-1832), James (1791-1842), Samuel (1788-1855), John ****(1785-1859), William (1781-1849), Thomas (1779-1855).

Then John who married the two Elizabeths.

Hope this wasn't too confusing!
Truly,
Rhondda

[Trevor Paul]

Hi  Rhondda    I've received your message and i have started to gather the information you require.  There is a fair bit but I have most of it written down. I wil finish it tomorrow and send it to you sometime in the morning; time permitting.  Regards TrevorPaul

[Trevor Paul]

Hi Rhonnda, I have some information for you. Check it and let me know if it appears alright. Let me know if you need anything else. I have tried to put it down in the order you sent it.
Johns first wife Elizabeth PASMORE they married on 15 Oct 1799 at Wootten Courtney. Elizabeth was bap. on 10 Aug 1779, parents William and Elizabeth. I cannot see a marriage in W/C for them. The children you listed for John and Elizabeth were bap. as follows: George 23 Beb 1800, Charlotte 6 Jan 1804, Harriet 6 Jul 1806, James 5 MFr 1817(  11yr gap between baptisms and no burials?), Hannah 17 Jul 1819 and Fanny 10 Mar 1822.
I cannot confirm Hannahs illegitamate child as my records stop in 1837.
 John PUGSLEY  father is shown as Richard and he  is shown as marrying Joney(Joan) VENN on 27 Mar 1779 at Cutcombe. Richards parents are Samuel and Elizabeth( LYDSON/LIDSON) and they were married on 15 Jul 1740.  Richard was bap on 5 Oct 1754 at Cutcombe. I will detail the other Siblings later
I cannot find Samuel PUGSLEYS bap but his burial is 3 Dec 1758. No trace of Elizabeths bap but she was buried 2 Sep 1792.
Baptisms for their children at Cutcombe: Ann 14 Mar 1741 buried 22 Nov 1741, Joan ...Jul 1744, John 27 Apr 1746, Samuel 10 Jul 1748, William 24 Mar 1751( not 1750)
Richard 5 Oct 1754 buried 4 Dec 1831 age 79 and Thomas 11 Sept 1757 buried 23 Jul 1826, age given as 69yrs.
These are the spouses and children of Samuel and Elizabeth:
Joan Pugsley married Thomas POPE( my mother is a POPE) on 29 Oct 1768 at Cutcombe children John POPE bap on 9 Sep 1769, Elizabeth 28 Mar 1772, Mary 13 May 1775, William ... Jul 1779, Thomas 25 Nov 1781, Betty ... Aug 1785 and James 20 Aug 1788.
John Pugsley married Elizabeth QUARTLEY on 2 Apr 1776. Witnesses Richard ADAMS and George BENNETT, Children: Mary 2 Mar 1778, Joan 6 Jun 1779, John 18 Nov 1781, Betty 28 Mar 1784, Fanny 4 Feb 1787 James 7 Nov 1790 and Thomas 4 May 1794.
Samuel PUGSLEY married Ann BENNETT on 23 Aug 1777, witnesses George BENNETT and Jn SIDERFIN, Children Betty 26 Dec 1777(shotgun wedding??), Samuel 30 Apr 1780, Ann 25 Jun 1786, Thomas 20 Jan 1789 and Isabella 30 Dec 1792.
Richard PUGSLEY married Joan VENN on 27 Mar 1779 witnessed by Richard GULD and Jn SiDERFIN, children: Thomas 16 Jul 1779, William 8 Apr 1781, Richard 18 Feb 1783, Robert 15 Apr 1787, Samuel 1 Feb 1789, James 8 May 1791, George 24 Feb 1793, Mary 19 Apr 1795, Joan 14 Aug 1797 and Elizabeth 11 May 1800. A very productive marriage.
Thomas PUGSLEY married Jane ADAMS on 27 Mar 1797 witnessed by John ADAMS and James WIDLAKE. Children Mary 10 June 1797 and Elizabeth 20 Jul 1806. This is a strange one because he is 40yrs when married but the only Jane ADAMS I can find was  baptised in 1773.
I can find no more children for this couple.
In respect of Joan VENN I cannot find a baptism record for her but some records are missing from about the relevant time ie 1760. But around this time a woman called Elizabeth VENN was baptising a few illigitamate children.

Have a look at this information and let me know if you need anything else.  Regards TREVOR

[lvninthepast]

Hi Trevor, Thank you so very much!  That information is amazing.  My Nana is going to be so excited!  Thank you again, Truly Rhondda

[Sprout]

Hi all
I'm a descendant of Samuel and Elizabeth Pugsley (via John/Thomas/Jane....who then married James Griffiths of Dunster.) Anyone know what happened before Sam 'n Liz?

[Trevor Paul]

Hi Sprout,  Have you seen my topic reply regarding the PUGSLEY family dated 30 June 2006 to Rhonnda. Unfortunately I cannot  find any record of Samuel or Elizabeth before the dates I have previously given.  I do hold some transcripts of Parish registers( between 1598 and 1837/8) for Wootton Courtney, Selworthy, Cutcombe, Stoke Pero and Luccombe, if you need any info from them.  Let me know.    Regards  TrevorPaul.