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Re: Need A magic Wond- Still Can't Find My Buchanan Family.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 June 06 22:32 BST (UK) »
My doubt, Doreen, is that I haven't come across many Christophers in D & G - female Christian's but Christopher   :-\ :-\ :-\

I'd like to know what Russell thinks about this one.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 June 06 22:41 BST (UK) »
OK Gadet ,have to take a dog for a walk ::),also should make a phone call.
Thanks for your input.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 June 06 23:19 BST (UK) »
There's a very interesting looking Jane Blacklock bpt Canonbie, 23 March 1826. Parents Thomas Blacklock and Martha Irving.

It wasn't that unusual for the naming pattern to be modified

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 June 06 00:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Doreen and gadget

I would agree with your comments about Christopher Gadget and Christian was more common pre-1800 generally. I have seen it as a male name as well as, but less commonly than, as a female name. 
Even by 1820 it was mostly female and often modified to Christy or Kirsty so it was more common on the West coast where it seemed to fit with the Gaelic speaking and pronunciation.
I have relatives through Roxburgh, Hawick, Penninghame and have not seen a Christopher. Doesn't mean there aren't any but I've looked at an awful lot of name lists as you have too.
Just a thought Doreen , on an earlier response you thought of trying Edinburgh. I think you may not yet have enough to make a search viable and cost effective.
I think there's a possibility that Christopher may have anglicised his name when he went south of the border.
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 June 06 00:28 BST (UK) »
As he was a shepherd, an off chance might be to look at any estate records where he worked. One of my ancestor (from D & G) was a shepherd on a large estate in North Wales - but if it was for a smaller farmer then that would be no use.

I do recall that there are a mass of records for Ulverston/Cartmel online. It might be worth having a look at what is there and try working backwards.

There are the Kirk Session minutes. I've already checked the online ones and can't find anything.

Have you looked for wills of a James Buchanan, farmer on SP - it's another possibility.

It might be one of those that is put on the back boiler for a while.

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Re: Need A magic Wond- Still Can't Find My Buchanan Family.
« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 June 06 10:40 BST (UK) »
H i Gadget  and Russell,
I think there is a strong family connection with the parish of Middlebie, I did find a Christopher on the IGI, born abt 1808 wed to Margaret Bell submitted details by a member of LDS.
They had a daughter Janet Buchanan born 1840 at Middlebie, Janet is on the 1841 and 1851 living with her grandmother Isabella Bell at Wallace Hall Middlebie. No trace of the parents on the 1841 or 1851. Christopher the shepherd was at Wallace Hall in 1843 this address is recorded on his sons baptism record .
A John Buchanan age 56 farmer is on the 1841, address Pokeskine Middlebie and appears to live close to Isabella Bell, he may be a relative.
I'm wondering if perhaps Christopher on the LSD is mine and did he marry both ladies or perhaps only one of them.(the mind boggles) What do you both think about this possibility?.

I will try to find out more about the estates, both in Middlebie and Cartmel, who knows something my be found that could lead to Christopher and perhaps is parents.

Cheers
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 23 June 06 10:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Doreen

I think that building up a total picture of the family name/areas is probably one of the only ways we're going to solve this one. I've got this prob with my Carson line (see Kirkcudbright thread).

I leave them for a while then go back again and build up a bit more info.

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 23 June 06 11:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,
Seen your Carson's on the Kirkcudbight thread,must send your head in a spin at times.
With a John Buchanan, the Bells and Blacklocks in Middlebie, I think I'll follow them and see what comes of it.

Both you and Russell have been a great help, hopefully something will turn up.

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 09 January 07 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Doreen

I think that building up a total picture of the family name/areas is probably one of the only ways we're going to solve this one. I've got this prob with my Carson line (see Kirkcudbright thread).

I leave them for a while then go back again and build up a bit more info.

Gadget

Hi Gadget,
Found the Family at last- but not Christopher, may be he was up in the hills with his sheep.

Found his father and mother and a sister plus two brothers on the 1851 Scottish census at Ancestry ,  the name was transcribed as Buchannon, they where all born in Middlebie and living in Canonbie.

Then went on the SP site and had a field day via the search for their deaths , found Christopher's  grandparents recorded on his father James and mother Janet's certs . I now have Jackson's, Little's, and Davidson's as part of my tree.
I also found a John Buchanan living in Miidlebie he turned out to be the elder brother to James , having the same parent's recorded on his death cert . His wife was Elizabeth Hope their son Gavin registered his death so I think I will to find a lot more on the SP site.
I think Christopher was named after someone from the Little side of the family as there were a couple of Christopher Little's living in Middlebie and Canonbie.

I need to go back further than 1855 for death or burial records , do you know if burial books from Society's would give as much detail as the S P site

Cheers from Elated
Doreen
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