surname FINNIS

[AJ100]

Hello everyone. I have just joined Rootschat and this is my first post.

I have in my records several Finnis families in Deal. At first glance Willmot & Susanna FINNIS had 13 children 1782-1802. John and Mercy had 2. William & Jane, John & Sarah, John & Mildred, Philip & Sarah all had children 1805-1821.

I haven't listed the children as they may be of no interest but let me know if you need them.
The Finnis' are an old Deal family and there are quite a lot of them, but nowhere near as many as Marsh, the biggest family of all.

[JOHNYP]

hi my wife has a Henry finnis or Henry Betsy finnis born in hythe Kent about 1810, I don't know if this is near deal. he married a Mary Ann (dawdy) callow in 1837 at shadwell middlesex. and we believe Mary was from great yarmouth norfolk. we have them as having 3 children, Elizabeth 1844 and William Henry 1845 born St George In The East, shadwell, Middlesex, and Mary Ann born poplar middlesex.

any information on Henry finnis or his children would be a big help as we are stuck on him.

also any information of Henry's parents, i have that his father was a William finnis and his mother Jane. i have no date of births or place of births or his mothers maiden name.
maybe they are from the Kent area as Henry Betsy was born in hythe Kent
thanks john

[finnisfinder]

 Think I have found Henry on my tree! Henry Belsey Finnis father William Finnis, mother Jane Dawe. Will post another message tomorrow when I have looked through some more notes.

Finnisfinder.

[finnisfinder]

To AJ100, I have two Marsh lines in my family, would be interested to know what you have.

JOHNYP, this from Kent Parish Records, Family Search and what was passed onto me by a Finnis family member.

John Finnis baptized 25th April 1759, died 1824, buried 17th July 1824 St George's Deal.
He married Mercy Belsey daughter of John Belsey, Yeoman of Northbourne 25th February 1785 Deal. John was a butcher.
I have Mercy baptised 16th Feb 1752 St Leonard's Deal, but this needs checking.

From then on Belsey was used as a second name for all the John Finnis' to come plus for other family members.

John and Mercy had two sons.
John Belsey Finnis 1786-1852 my line
William 1788. Baptized 23rd February 1788 St Leonard's Deal.

William m Jane Dawe (Dawes) but can't find a marriage date.
They had 4 children,
Henry Belsey Finnis 1810-1855 a gatehouse keeper at West India docks Limehouse.

The thing that puzzles me is Hythe as birth/baptism place, can't link that with Jane or William. The three daughters were
Ann Belsey Finnis 1811-1821 bap 1st Jan 1812 bur St George's Deal 16th April 1821 of  Beach St.
Jane Mercy Finnis 1814 bap 12th June 1814 Deal
Elizabeth Dawe Finnis 1817 bap 30th July 1817 Deal.

William was recorded as baker of Oak St Deal on baptism records.

Jane possibly died 1834. Record of St George's shows a Jane Finnis buried 18th March of Beach St.

Found in Pigot's directory 1839 a William Finnis baker of 109 Beach St Deal. He wasn't listed in the Bagshaw's of 1847.

Hope this helps.

Finnisfinder

[JOHNYP]

hello finnisfinder
thanks for the information.
below is a copy of the 1851 cencus that i have it says henry's wife as maris ann, I think this should be mary ann. I have a marriage  certificate for the duaghter elizabeth she married hugh o'connor 1866 greenwich her father on the certificate was henry finnis a superintendent at E india docks. unless i have the wrong henry finnis it shows his birthplace as hythe kent.
thanks john

  London 1851 Census Transcript (1851)        7 Batson Street        Limehouse, Middlesex
Surname     Forename     Age     Relation     Occupation     Birth Place
Finnis    Henry                     39        Head          Clerk                   Hythe, Kent
Finnis    Maris Ann                  33        Wife                      Yarmouth, Norfolk
Finnis    Elizabeth                      7        Daur      Scholar                   St George,  Middlesex
Finnis    William                      6                 Son     At Home                   St George, Middlesex
Finnis    Mary Ann                      2        Daur     At Home                   Poplar, Middlesex
 

[finnisfinder]

I'm sure you have the correct Henry but I can't explain why the record shows him born in Hythe.

I have searched again on Family Search for William and Jane's marriage because that might be a clue as to why it seems Henry was baptised in Hythe.

The Parish Records definitely show William's daughters baptised in Deal. The Hythe record shows that Henry's parents were William and Jane.

I have also found my gt gt grandfather's name being transcribed as John Betsy Finnis so Henry is certainly meant to be Henry Belsey.

There must be someone out there who can help us?!

[AJ100]

To finnisfinder

You asked about the Marsh family in Deal. The Marsh's are an enormous family - can you give any names or dates as a starting point?

AJ

[finnisfinder]

Here goes AJ!

My grandmother Julia Charlotte Finnis b 1880 Sandwich Kent
                         John Belsey Finnis b 1852 Sandwich
                         Ingram Bromley Finnis b 1826 Deal married Julia Margaret Marsh b 1832 Deal
 
Julia Margaret's father was Henry Marsh b 1799 Deal m Mary Ann Woodruff.
Father of Henry, William Marsh b 1768? Deal? Married Ann Bailey Long.

My grandfather William George Marsh 1879 Great Mongeham Kent married Julia Finnis.
                       Father of WG was Charles Henry Marsh b 1856 Woodnesborough Kent.
                                                  William Marsh b 1823 Eastry Kent.
I'm pretty sure that William's father was George William Marsh b 1799 Barham Kent. George's father was James b 1746 Barham.

I've wondered if these two Marsh lines are connected.

Finnisfinder

         

[JOHNYP]

hello finnisfinder
would these be your decendants

William FINNIS
1725 -

Life History
1725
 Born in Kent England

(most likely)
about 1727
 Born in Denton, Kent, England

(less likely)
about 1755
 Birth of son William FINNIS
 
1759
 Birth of son John FINNIS in Deal, Kent
 
about 1760
 Birth of son Thomas FINNIS
 
about 1765
 Birth of son William FINNIS
 

Other facts
 
 Married Martha WELLS

thanks john