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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Honey-Roma88,
That's interesting what you said about an ancestor being called Stewart Ann!!!
Were they the names of her parents by any chance as my Joseph Ann's parents were called just that! Most census say Joseph Ann too, although there is one that says Josephine, which is probably what they thought she said.
They don't seem to be Romani though...they lived in a house in 1841 and Joseph Ann and Saloma Aseneth's mother was a hat maker  ??? they were born in Nottingham and spent about 30 years in Liverpool before returning home. I thought their names were very strange.

I will have to look up her parents, I can't remember off the top of my head...but her surname was Brimble sometimes Bramble...not sure if she was Roma in particular but some of her ancestors that she has in common with me were.
Almost all of my Romani ancestors lived in houses, often lodging houses and always with other families but usually in houses. A milliner is quite a fancy job for a gypsy though. ;D

Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE

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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 19:57 GMT (UK) »
i dont know if mine are romany names but they are not your usual.
Ladies first;
britannia, ocean, richender, thirza, lender, cilianse,
the men folk;
pender, oti, kenza, carnation, santalina, joiner, hairum, trafalgar, lazarus, peron. etc.
but even worse are the names that they called themselves, rather than they birth names; i:e albert, tiddler. pender, butcher. kitty, peg. britannia, popsie. ada, tye.  ;)
not what you expect to find in the newspapers top 20 names for 2008 are they? ::)
still we all like them. its what makes the family intersting 8)
a.a.
buckley
webb
boswell (shadrack line)
pearse
lee
smith (inc epping forest)
heron
bibby

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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 20:00 GMT (UK) »
A milliner is quite a fancy job for a gypsy though. ;D


I don't know what she did before 1841...her husband died 1837 so no idea what he did either. She supported herself and one daughter her whole working life. Can't think why she would move to Liverpool other than for work-bit of a long way though!
Swift , Matthews, Price , Clarke , Rockley, Dewey, Turton, Wild, Nottingham
Aldread, Brentnall, Cowlishaw Derbyshire
Elliot, The Borders/Nottingham FWK industry
Hartopp, NW Leicester (Barkby and surrounds).
Smith Bilston Staffordshire
Bennett, Calary? Ireland
Johnson, Staffordshire/Warwickshire
Latham, Lewis, Trevor, Vero, Armstrong, Barnett

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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 20:30 GMT (UK) »
A milliner is quite a fancy job for a gypsy though. ;D


I don't know what she did before 1841...her husband died 1837 so no idea what he did either. She supported herself and one daughter her whole working life. Can't think why she would move to Liverpool other than for work-bit of a long way though!

I was just looking up Salome and I assume the Salone Asenath Clark (bap. 16th Feb 1830 St. Mary's, Nottingham) is your Salome. It says her father was Joseph and her mother Ann...so was Joseph Ann named after her mother and father (I think that is quite sweet). :)

I tried looking of Family History Society but can't find either baptism which could have given the father's occupation...it does sometimes. :(

I looked on the 1841 census and they don't seem unlikely candidates for travellers although it's almost to tell. Do you know Ann's surname? There are definitely Clark gypsies so it is perfectly possible. It is also possible that after the death of her husband she tried to settle down to a less nomadic life.
Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE


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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Do you think either of these are your Joseph Clark who died...they both were buried in the same church as Salome was baptised so there might be a connection.

2. Name Joseph CLARKE Date 21 Feb 1837 Aged 41 Place Nottingham Description St Mary Denomination Anglican County code NTT

3. Name Joseph CLARKE Date 26 Dec 1837 Aged 33 Place Nottingham Description St Mary Denomination Anglican County code NTT
Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE

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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #50 on: Friday 06 June 08 15:09 BST (UK) »
Hi, heres some interesting for you, Kerenhappuch, Shephaniah and Epaphroditus Hunter they all got married in Leeds about 1785.
Vickers, Hunter, Stewart, Allen,Taylor, Page, Galloway, Jowett, Croft, Stocks, Harrison, Furbank, Grey -
Yorkshire
Banks, Stewart, Allen, McHugh, Bluett, Casey - Lancashire                      
Hunter,Stewart, Armstrong - Cumbria

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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 26 July 08 10:27 BST (UK) »
Here´s another one:

Sanuvidal Sykes, born in 1871.

He was the son of my great-great-great uncle Thomas Sykes, born in Bradford in 1830.

Thomas worked in the Yorkshire mills as a boy, but became a traveller later, listed in the 1871 census as a  hawker and an auctioneer, address "caravan, near the Exchange Inn" in Risca, Monmouthshire.  Must have been pretty crowded with 9 family members.

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Aunt Sally
Durham - Brown, Sykes, Cunningham, Morby, Dunn
Oxfordshire - Morby/Moreby/Morbey, Gennings
Worcestershire - Tandy, Tibbetts, Poppett
Yorkshire - Sykes, Kaywood, Brown
Staffordshire - Tibbetts
Ireland - Castlecomer, Kilkenny - Cunningham

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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 20:03 BST (UK) »
I have in my ancestors a Zuba Johnson and Zuba Crowther Don't where the name came from Just a family from Leeds. Maybe the show families who had show names and family names got carried away in naming the kids. Does anyone know where Zuba comes from?
Johnson, Crowther, Sykes showman and travellers 1800's onward of Leeds and surrounding area. Also Bunting, Bosomworth and Palliser

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Re: Interesting traveller names!
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 22:16 BST (UK) »
Zuba is Hebrew ( male name)
It means Foresaken
Form of Azubah
Azuba is Hebrew ( female name)
It also means foresaken
Pronuncation : Ah ZOO bah
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
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