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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 June 06 13:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish for all your work on this side of the family. As one of four children I seem to be the only one interested in finding my roots. My brother has the original flag of the Murray clan and also the seal of the mermaid on the rock which is the Murray family emblem. These have been handed down to the eldest son through the generations as far as I can gather.
If you find out anymore could you please let me know and if I get anymore bits and pieces I will do the same.
Once again thanks for your time.
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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 07:46 BST (UK) »
Hi BM

I'm wondering if your John Murray was younger than you thought? If he arrived here 1860 - would he have been about 40?  I have found a family on the 1841 that has possibilities, but the John is much younger. I think you may have to buy some certificates, if you do not definitely know the ages.  Anyway - here is the one I found - remember that all adult ages are rounded DOWN to the nearest 4 years

Living London Street Airdrie Lanarkshire
James Kinels 40 Mason
James Murray 30 Mason
John Murray 5
Margaret Murray 30
Robert Murray 1

They ALL must be born OUTSIDE county as Birthplace is given as Scotland. I think it would be given as Lanarkshire if they said born in county.

Best I can find at the minute - good luck with the searching - your family might one day get more interested in searching  ;D   ;D


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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 00:12 BST (UK) »
Dear Trish,
Thanks for the info. The James and the Margaret Murray you have found seem more to fit in with the son John M being 5 years old on the 1841 census. I have he was born 1822 but according to the 41 census he was born about 1836 making him about 24 when he married Elizabeth Neil in Mauritius in 1860. All fitting into place. Finally found he had at least a brother also. Where do I and from whom do I buy the certificates from? Looked Queensland cemeteries records yesterday but couldn't find anything at all. OK getting down to the nitty gritty of it all now. Where do I get records of birth of him, his parents, his death (LDS?),etc. On arrival Brisbane on Golden City in 1865 I have a Elizabeth 33(wife) John 35 another John 30 and Jane 3 so the younger John is my grandfather. I have been going on the older one all along being related, but seems to be right before my eyes all along. Once again thanks for all your help. If you could just let me know where I send off to to get all the certificates I would be very grateful.
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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 11:20 BST (UK) »
Hi BM

I'll look up the death details again and get the reference numbers for you - I think it is cheaper to buy Qld certificates if you have the numbers. Then you can print a form off the net, or I think if you phone or email the registry they will post you a form - printing may be easier.  The death certificate should say where they were buried so you will know where to go looking  ;D

I hope these are the right folks  ???   ??? 

The birth information is definitely worth looking for on the IGI and if found films can be ordered from the LDS. If you have been to your local centre you will know how helpful they can be. I think many of them subscribe to Ancestry, so you could check if you can look up the census there as well. If you haven't been, then it will be a first  :)

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Trish

This is what MAY be on Qld death certificate (depends what the informant knew)

Deceased's name Date & place of death
Sex, name & occupation
Cause of death & length of illness
Medical attendant's name & when last saw deceased alive
Father's name & occupation  Mother's maiden name
Informant's name & relationship
Deceased's children (separately for each marriage, if more than one):
those alive sometimes listed by name & age; otherwise just the number of males and females
those dead usually showing just the number of males and females
Date & place of burial or cremation
Undertaker's name
Minister's name & religion
Birthplace and length of time in australia (sometimes each state)
Marriage place, age at marriage & spouse's name
Date & place of registration
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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 June 06 00:07 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Wingate Murray died 15 May 1908, Father James Neill, Mother not given, Reg No 1908/B009551 -  The B indicates registered in Brisbane.
John Murray died  11 May 1907 father James Murray Mother Margaret Dundas Reg No 1907/B008053.

I found a marriage for Margaret Dundas (Jnr) - married George Frederick Lewis Vaughan 19 Apr 1892 - 1892/ 000810

The Qld registry is http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/bdm/home.htm

Trish



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