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Re: Frape, Spratt, Peters
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 July 10 09:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Narissa - and welcome!

What information have you got about John junior?  Do you know (or can you estimate) his birth year?  Was he married when he arrived in Oz and did he travel with family? Do you have an occupation for John or his father?

The only placename that jumps to mind is Ford - might it be that?

Will have a little look for you.

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Frape, Spratt, Peters
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 July 10 04:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Arranroots,
Thanks for your thoughts. The following is my summary of the immigration information:

Aboard the vessel Zemindar aged 22 a labourer, listed as being able to read (but not write)  from Noad, Gloucestershire the son of John and Hannah, father dead mother living in Gloucestershire. Religion C of E paid fare of ? one pound (hard to read)

Birth about 1835.

He was not married as he married out here (well - don't think so). Seems to have travelled alone - no other Frapes on that vessel. Ancestry has origin as Noad, Gloucestershire. A fair bit is known of him once he arrived here but nothing in England and the Census is a little non-definitive. There is a John Frape working as an ag labourer in the 1851 in Horton, Glos and another John Frape 1841 aged just 6 working as an agricultural labourer - no parents just sister Ann with him. Haven't mentally tied that all together yet mainly because the pieces don't seem to form any sort of picture yet.
Any thoughts or help would be valued.   Take care and have a great day.
Narissa
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Re: Frape, Spratt, Peters
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 July 10 18:12 BST (UK) »
Well there are very few John FRAPEs and all of them are living in Gloucestershire or from the county - assuming there are no horrible mistranscriptions.

Will have another look but you might have already done all that can be done ...

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Frape, Spratt, Peters
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 24 July 10 22:16 BST (UK) »
Anyone doing family from Frampton on Severn there is a brilliant book written by a Rose Spence - Frampton on Severn, Portrait of a Victorian Village.

Its from drawings by the local gentry and takes a look at the village in the 1860s.
Tozer - Cumbria, Weston-super-Mare
Frape - Bristol, Frampton on Severn
Phillips - Bristol/Bath
Eardley - Wooden Box, Workington
Lightfoot - Workington
Cowx - Cumbria
Jay - Bristol
Ford - Bath/Bristol
Marshman - Bristol
Thomas - Cornwall
Spratt - Bristol
Peters - West Indies, Bristol, UK (circus family)
Paisey - Bath
Nicholas - Sennen

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narissa
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 June 19 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am also related to John Frape in Australia and am trying to get into contact with narissa, any chance you can pass my details onto her? she might still be using the same email she joined with back in 2010.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=120211

Please

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Re: narissa
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 June 19 11:01 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

If you post a reply on the link you gave above Narissa will receive a notification from Rootschat.  As a new member you have to make 3 posts before you can contact her by pm (personal message)
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Re: Frape, Spratt, Peters
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 June 19 11:06 BST (UK) »
Hello Frapster, welcome to RootsChat :)

I have merged your message to the topic on frape's so they will be notified of your reply.

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Re: Frape, Spratt, Peters
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 June 19 11:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much

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Re: Frape, Spratt, Peters
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 June 19 14:46 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat :)

I think you will find John/Ann Frape were the children of Hannah Frape who was unmarried.

1841 above John/Ann are Joseph JONES and Wife MARY and Family.

Marriage;
29 Aug 1833, St Mary, Yate, Glous
Joseph JONES to Mary FRAPE
Bachelor/Spinster
(Source FreeREG)

Familysearch.Org has;

Christened St Mary, Yate;
MARY Frape 25 September 1814
HANNAH Frape 21 April 1816
Siblings;
ANN 4 April 1819
ELIZABETH 25 November 1821
JOHN 4 April 1824
Parents WILLIAM/ELIZABETH

****JOHN Frape  christened 1834 Yate, Mother HANNAH**

+ on FreeREG;
WILLIAM Frape married Elizabeth AMOS 16 Feb 1814 St Mary, Yate

Trish :)
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