beaby sanderson

[vhaila]

Has anyone found a Beaby, probably female, during course of research? I'm looking for a Beaby, wedding witness in 1868, Yorkshire. I've tried Beatrice, and other likely sounding names, without success. Nothing shows on IGI or Census.  Any help will be gratefully accepted.

[MaryA]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat, I hope we'll be able to give you some help.

First of all your placename help, I didn't want to add on to the bottom of a Link so can I suggest that if you go to www.streetmap.co.uk you can check where your places are.  Ardsley seems to be just east of Barnsley but Woodkirk is east of Batley and coincidentally a little south west of a place called "West Ardsley" which might be the one you mean.

Onto your other query of Beaby, first of all it might help us if you can give all details from the marriage certificate, names, addresses and full witnesses names, including their surname as we may be able to find them on a census.  Secondly is it possible that you could scan part of the certificate and post a portion (not the whole cert.) on here and we can see it for ourselves and try to work it out that way.

Mary

[Arranroots]

Hi Vhaila

Welcome to Rootschat!  

There are a few Beabys on censuses - what surname were you looking for?

kind regards, Arranroots  

[vhaila]

wedding witness  1868  Beaby Sanderson. Family were in Pickering / area. Can't find on Census, IGI etc  Is this a genuine or 'pet' name? Any help, thanks.

Moderator comment: Topics moved & merged to avoid duplication of effort

[MaryA]

This is some extra information sent to me in a pm

Marriage Certif. dated 30 June 1868.  Parish church Harome, Reg Dist Helmsley.

Married couple were: John Henry Sanderson and Emma Tate

Witnesses were:  John Sadler and Beaby Sanderson

The Sandersons came from Pickering.

Thanks also for streetmap info re Ardsley.

[MaryA]

I think the name would be Betsey

1851 census - Little Barugh, Yorkshire
John Sanderson Head M 44 Ag Lab Yorkshire Westerdale
Grace Wife M 40 Yorkshire Harum
Mary Ann daur 12 " Pickering
Harriet " 11 " "
George Son 9 " Brawby
John Henry Son 6 " Pickering
William Son 5 " "
Betsey daur 3 " "
Lucy " 1 " "
HO107/2373 Spilsby Wainfleet All Saints Folio 268 Page 16

That would make John Henry about 23 in 1868 at the time of his marriage, would that fit in with the details from the certificate? and was his father John?

[MaryA]

In 1861 they were living at Sinnington, Marton, Yorkshire

John Sanderson Head M 54 Ag Lab Yorkshire Danby (or Dauby?)
Grace Wife M 50 Yorkshire Harum
Elizabeth daur Un 13 Scholar " "
Thomas Son 7 " " Normanby
RG9/3643 Pickering, Sinnington Folio 15 Page 4

By any chance was John Henry's occupation a wheelwright?
Village of Harum, Yorkshire
Jesse Hugill Head Un 37 Wheelwright Yorkshire Harum
Hannah Pope Mother Un 58 Housekeeper " "
William Hugill Servant Un 23 Wheelwright " "
John Sanderson Apprentice Un 17 Wheelwright Yorkshire Marton
RG9/3637 Helmsley Folio 59 Page 12

[MaryA]

Taking a guess here, I have an Emma of similar age to the above Betsey and birthplace the same so they may well have been friends.  If Emma's father worked as a corn miller and was deceased before her marriage then we might have cracked it.

1851 Harum, Yorkshire
John Tate Head M 37 Corn Miller Servant Yorkshire Lastingham
Mary Wife M 38 Yorkshire Harum
Hannah daur 12 Scholar " "
John Son 8 " " "
William Son 6 " " "
Emma daur 2       " "
Sarah J daur 5 months " "
HO107/2372 Helmsley Folio 153 Page 9

1861 Village of Harum, Yorkshire
Richard Myers Head M 42 Farmer of 50 Acres 1 man 1 boy, also a mill Yorkshire Mannington
Mary Myers Wife M 48 Yorkshire Harum
Jesse Myers Son Un 17 Ag Lab " "
Mary Myers daur 9 Scholar " "
Hannah Tate daur Un 22 Housekeeper " "
Emma Tate daur Un 12 Scholar " "
Sarah Tate daur un 10 " " "
Augusta Tate granddaur 5 Scholar " "
John Tate grandson 1                    " "
George Sarason Servant Un 30 Farm Servant Foreman " "
RG9/3637 Helmsley Folio 61 Page 15

If this is the wrong Emma - you'll know by the father on the cert. there are other Emma Tates, but also another born in Harum visiting John and Ellen Carr and their daughters in Old Malton.

I'm pinning things on Harum since it seems to figure in both families.