Baker family - Ewhurst, Sussex

[berylm]

Hi Toni
Sounds interesting. Am happy to receive Crouch information.
When I was transcribing the Ewhurst register I  transcribed alot of extra entries, as you never know who will actually turn out to be connected to your tree.

Also, I have an interest in Brede, as my 2 gt grandparents William & Maria Kennard were married there in 1834. They were  "of this parish" at the time they married.
When were your family  at Brede? 
BerylM

[toni*]

Elizabeth Miller was born 1752 Hooe child of John Miller and Mary Punnett & Nathanial Crouch was born Ninfield. child of Nathanial Crouch and Ann Pollard
I do not have the record of Elizabeth and Nathianal marriage however there first child Nathanial Crouch was born in 1782 in Brede
followed by:
Mary 1783
William 1784
Elizabeth 1788
John 1789
James 1791
Dorcas 1793
Stephen 1795
Paul 1799
Elizabeth Crouch nee Miller died in Brede in 1832
i have the descendants of Paul Crouch b.1799 Elizabeth Crouch b.1788
Paul 1799 stayed in Brede but Elizabeth 1788 moved to Kent.

let me know if you want more details
Best Wishes
Toni

[sillgen]

There does not appear to be a marriage for Elizabeth Miller to Nathaniel Crouch on the Sussex marriage index.  I wonder where they married?   There is one to Nathaniel Cramp in Hooe in 1782.
She married very late for those days if she was not having children until her 30s.
Andrea

[Legacy]

Hello
The only partial tombstone listing I know of is that of Colin Field in his book "[u] Leaves from a Genealogists Notebook". [/u] He would have noted down some of the earlier stones, as he has done in other parishes. It can be obtained from the Hastings & Rother F.H.S.

For Brede, I have M.J. Burchall's transcriptions from LDS.#1364151 and do not see all the Crouch births mentioned.
Bpt.Apr.11,88 Eliz. , dau. Nathaniel & Eliz.
Bpt. Dec.6,89 John, s/o Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. Nov.13,91 James, s/o Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. Aug.4, 93 Dorcas, Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. May 31, 95 Stephen, Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. June 9, 99 Paul, b. 9 May , Nath. & Eliz.
Hope this helps,
Legacy

[Jennywil]

I have Thomas BaKER & Sarah Ellis (or Alice) Catt in my tree. They married at Northiam, Ssx in 1808. They had 6 children born at Ewhurst but there may have been a couple born in Northiam between 1808 & 1811.
I did research the Ewhurst parish registers on film at my local LDS. Also on the censuses Thomas says he was born at HAWKHURST, Kent. He died 1856 & Sarah died 1853.
My husband is descvended from their son THOMAS who married Eleanor CUTBUSH in 1839 @ Ewhurst & there emmigrated that year to NSW.
Jenny
Aus

Hi Beryl

There are two family trees having a Thomas Baker marrying a Sarah Ellis Catt 25/2/1808 Northian, one saying all the children were born in Northian and the other saying that some children were born there but then they moved to Ewhurst both agree that Thomas was the one that died 1856 Ewhurst But neither can prove by Church Records where Thomas Baker was actually born but give his birth as 1784 one saying he came from Kent the other not sure now.
Sarah Ellis Baker nee Catt did die in Ewhurst as Sarah Alice Baker but was this Thomas Baker 1856 her husband or Mary Crouch's?

It is so confusing and frustrating sometimes but we have to carry on and prove who is right.

Now I have probably frustrated you, sorry.

Colin

[berylm]

Hi Toni
Sorry for the delay.
I have a couple of generations.
Mary Crouch bap 2 Nov 1713 Ewhurst.
     - - I and several others are still trying to find out what became of her.
she was the child of
Thomas Crouch  (bap 20 Apr 1760 Ticehurst)
 bur 19 Jan 1837 Ewhurst.
married to Sarah Merricks
bap 1 Jan 1764 Ewhurst
bur 18 Oct 1820 Ewhurst

If you are searching that line, I have Merricks back 3 more generations in Ewhurst.
I think they then turn into Morroke, but I am having difficulty finding the connecting ancestor
back in the 17th cent.

 
There is a website re a George Swift and Mark Clarke, which lists  these.
Do you have this? It leads back to Ticehurst.
I havent been there yet. I am currently researching in Salehurst.
BerylM

[berylm]

Hi
I have found in the Parish Chest records of the "Overseers of the Poor of the Parrish of Ewhurst"
that in 1770 my ancestor William Baker was Examined and carried to Sailhurst [Salehurst] with an order, I presume to establish where he had a settlement.

From my researches it appears that William Baker was born in Ewhurst, bap. 17 May 1713.
His mother had been supported by the parish of Ewhurst for years because she was widowed.
His father Thomas Baker and his mother Jane (Rogers) - known as the widdow Baker, had come from Salehurst. I presume that is why he was being taken back there.

Were these examinations before a court, and would there be any records?.
If so, where would I find them?
Or, would this be in the Overseers settlement papers, or Overseers rates for Salehurst.
What sort of information do these give?. Do  they include birth dates etc.

I am having problems with a birth date for his father,  Thomas Baker
 - there is a much quoted  date:  bap 24 May 1674 at Salehurst! (bur 20 Nov 1720 Ewhurst)
Unfortunately, the microfilm I have been searching has a gap in the register at this point.
At the bottom of the page is "April:74". then at the top of the next page is: "May 1675".
I am not sure where this date has come from!

Any suggestions
Cheers
BerylM

 

[sillgen]

Hi
Not necessarily a gap but might be the way the calendar worked then.  If you google it you should get more information about how the old style calendar worked.  It was not January to December.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar
Andrea

[berylm]

Hi Andrea
Thanks.
The dates, plus the old writing, and the Latin make this era a challege!
We  were discussing this up at the centre  yesterday morning.
In this register then beginning of the year usually Jan & Feb continue with the dates of the previous year, and the dates seemed to change about March.
I have looked all around and can't seem to find this particular baptism.
Cheers
BerylM