Amberley Baptism Lookup 15/02/1829

[Jane Masri]

Hi Downside,
Do you think the parish register entry for Ann's marriage will give her father's name?  The only way I know of getting that information is by purchasing the certificate or possibly on the BVRI...why don't you ask specifically for a BVRI look-up..
I think you're right about the LDS members copying each others submissions 

jane

[downside]

Hi Jane

Any parish mariage certificate up to around 125 years ago should be available from a County Record Office.  I am not sure if there is a 100 year ruling on BMD records.  Local authority family research centres update their collection from time to time.  They can be printed via microfiche if you want a copy.  You can view more recent parish records if you ask the local priest or his clerical asssistant.  It seems to vary from parish to parish.

I don't know how to get hold of Mormon records though.  If Ann and Edward were baptised into the Mormon faith on their wedding day, is there a record of that event and if so are there documents relating to that event and did she put her real father's name down somewhere on that document?

Cheers

downside

[janan]

Hi
The parish register entry for a marriage this late should have father's name. Don't think I'll have time today but will definitely go next week. Shame about yesterday - did eventually get tickets booked after 5hrs. Something to look forward to in August
Cheers Jan

[downside]

Hi Janan and Jane

On Saturday I sent an email to the Brighton History Centre requesting details on Ann's marriage certificate.  I've never dealt with these people before so I didn't know what to expect. I received a reply this morning:-

Dear Raymond,
the following information appears on the marriage certificate :
 
Ann Wakeham
 
Full age
 
Spinster
 
Occupation - servant
 
address - 40 Portland Street, Brighton
 
name of father not given
 
regards,  Paul Jordan,  Brighton History Centre


So Janan you can scratch it off your To Do list.
Jane, thanks for your massive input.

Now the really difficult bit begins, trying to find some documentation that specifically names Barnard West as her father.

Thanks for all your help

downside

[Jane Masri]

Hi Raymond (nice to know your real name 

This is a real mystery!  Why LDS sources should link Barnard West to Ann Wakeham, that's probably where you should begin, by contacting one of their UK branches & asking if there would be some documentation from 1849.  Was it St. Nicholas, Brighton they married in?  That's not a Mormon church is it?  I was just reading a bit about entry into the church & it's quite a cermony with full immersion for the baptism. 
No witnesses on her marriage certificate?  Just wondering that maybe, Barnard, being in Broadwater in 1851 & possibly a good family friend & neighbour might have given her away or been a witness & somehow his name has mistakenly been put down as her father...clutching at straws I know...
Do let us know how you get on,

jane

[downside]

Hi Jane

If you hover over the globe icon on my profile and look at the status bar at the bottom of your screen it offers you a clue as to my real identity.

I didn't want to push my luck on the Brighton lookup.  It's free of charge providing it takes under 10 minutes.  I think she would have entered her father's name if she knew it?  How did she regard Barnard when she lived next door to him in Rackham?  A friendly neighbour?  A friend of her deceased mother?  A lot of things do not make sense.  Maybe she learnt about who he really was much later in life.

Edward and Ann were baptised into the mormon faith on the day of their wedding.  I think if she did not know that Barnard was her real father around that time then obtaining details of the baptism may not be much use.  The LDS sell CDROMS and various CD numbers are cited by the submitters on the IGI site.  Whether they quote SOURCES or not is the big question.  I suppose I could try and find if anyone has these CD's out there and see if they have any sources.

downside

[janan]

Hi Raymond
I've checked at the RO for any bastardy order but if there ever was one it hasn't survived
Jan

[janan]

For what it's worth in 1841 it is only a single dash between the Wests and the Pescotts and then another single dash before Ann Wakeham - so they appear to be living in the same house.

Jan

[downside]

Hi Janan

Thanks for that.  I forgot you were going to Chichester R.O. I should have asked you to check the witnesses on the marriage certificate just in case they yielded any extra clues.

Cheers

downside