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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 June 06 11:12 BST (UK) »
Prerogative Court of Canterbury will

Will of Penelope Lutley Sclater, Spinster of Worcester , Worcestershire 17 February 1843 PROB 11/1975

1841 census HO107 1209/5c folio 22 page 14
Tything of Whistons Claines  Worcestershire   
Penelope Sclater 85  Worcestershire Independent
William Sclater 50 not born Worcestershire  Independent 

From

http://thepeerage.com/p11671.htm#i116704

Richard Sclater was born in 1712. He is the son of Reverend Christopher Sclater and Elizabeth May. He married, secondly, Penelope Lutley, daughter of Philip Lutley and Penelope Barneby. He married, firstly, Magdalen Limbrey, daughter of John Limbrey.
Richard Sclater held the office of Alderman of London.
Will of Richard Sclater, Druggist, late one of the Alderman of the City of London of Christ Church , City of London 31 May 1754 PROB 11/808

Family 1 Magdalen Limbrey 
Children Thomas Limbrey Sclater-Mathew d. 1809
Elizabeth Sclater d. 1814
 
Family 2 Penelope Lutley 
Children Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater+ d. 1804
Penelope Lutley Sclater d. 1844

Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater was the son of Richard Sclater and Penelope Lutley. He married Elizabeth Rebecca Bristow, daughter of George Bristow. He died in 1804.
Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater was a Fellow in Oriel College, Oxford University, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England. He graduated from Oxford University with the degree of Master of Arts (M.A.). He held the office of Rector of Whitlington, Northumberland.

Family Elizabeth Rebecca Bristow d. 1825
Child William Lutley Sclater+ b. 22 Jan 1789, d. 15 Dec 1885

William Lutley Sclater was born on 22 January 1789 He was the son of Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater and Elizabeth Rebecca Bristow. He married Anna Maria Bowyer, daughter of William Bowyer and Dorothy Tomkyns, on 26 July 1821. He died on 15 December 1885 at age 96
William Lutley Sclater graduated with the degree of Master of Arts (M.A.). In 1814 he inherited the estate of Basing Byfleet, Hampshire, from his half-uncles. He held the office of Chairman of Magistrates, Basingstoke Division. He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.). He lived in Hoddington House, Hampshire, England.

Family Anna Maria Bowyer b. before 1806, d. 1 April 1879
Children George Sclater-Booth, 1st Baron Basing of Basin Byflete and of Hoddington+ b. 19 May 1826, d. 22 Oct 1894
Philip Lutley Sclater+ b. 4 Nov 1829, d. 27 Jun 1913
Frederick Booth Sclater b. 22 Aug 1838, d. 9 Dec 1856

Philip Lutley Sclater was born on 4 November 1829. He was the son of William Lutley Sclater and Anna Maria Bowyer. He married Jane Anne Eliza Blair, daughter of Sir David Hunter Blair, 3rd Bt., on 16 October 1862. He died on 27 June 1913 at age 83.
Philip Lutley Sclater graduated with a Master of Arts (M.A.). He graduated with a Doctor of Science (D.Sc.). He graduated with a Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.). He was invested as a Fellow, Royal Society (F.R.S.). He was admitted to Lincoln's Inn entitled to practice as a Barrister-at-Law. He lived in Odiham Priory, Hampshire, England.

Family Jane Anne Eliza Blair d. 25 May 1915
Children Lilian Elizabeth Lutley Sclater+ d. 8 Apr 1957
William Lutley Sclater b. 23 Sep 1863, d. Jul 1944
Captain Bertram Lutley Sclater b. 22 Feb 1866, d. 24 Jul 1897
Captain Guy Lutley Sclater+ b. 15 Aug 1868, d. 26 Nov 1914
Arthur Lutley Sclater b. 24 Sep 1873, d. 2 May 1922 

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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 February 11 02:47 GMT (UK) »
I know this thread is years old, but I really need some help concerning the "other names on page" ...

Fanny Eyre Wood and Walter Ewles Legg.

Can someone please tell me exactly what this whole document is about and how I can obtain further information on Fanny and the Legg family?

Reason being ... I was contacted by an individual who obtained a bible from 1858 belonging to Fanny Eyre Wood ... presented by "cousin Parker". On a page of the bible, there is the name "S.C.E Legg".  It is printed by Eyre and Spottiswoode of England.

Now, I am descended from both Wood and Eyre families (my paternal grandparents are James Eyre and Mildred Wood).  Despite a fairly extensive Wood genealogy, there is no mention of another Eyre Wood connection of any variety.

Anyways, I found it too coincidental that the quoted posted mentioned both Fanny Eyre Wood AND a Legg ... and am hoping they are the same (or related to in regards to Legg) to the ones in the bible ... so I can do some further tracing.

Thanks in advance for any help someone can provide.

Hi again,

Marriage,

Philip Lutley SCLATER  Dec Q  1862  St George Hanover Square, London  v.1a  p.422

other names on page,

Jane Ann Eliza Hunter BLAIR 
Fanny Eyre WOOD
Walter Ewles LEGG


1871 RG10/104  f.27/28  p.2/3  St George Hanover Square

15 Lower Belgrave St

Philip L SCLATER  Head  41 Barrister at Law in practice   Hants St. Lawrence Wooton
Jane Ann E SCLATER  Wife    35                                    Scotland
William L SCLATER      Son     7  Scholar                  Middx St George
Bertram L SCLATER    Son      5    Scholar                Middx St George
Guy L SCLATER          Son     2                             Hants Upton Grey

So I think he married Miss BLAIR  :)

Daisy

       
Eyre: Co. Kilkenny/Co. Wexford, Ireland
Bradley: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Christie: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Thompson: W. Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Taylor: Woodbury, Litchfield Co., CT -> Manhattan, NY 
Wood: Delevin, MN -> Greene, NY -> Bergen, NJ

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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 February 11 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Here are Walter & Fanny in the 1871 census living 41 Belgrave Road, Westminster

LEGG, Walter E Head  M age 31 Paddington, Middlesex 
LEGG, Fanny E Wife  F age 35  Chelsea. Middlesex 
LEGG, Fanny E Daughter  F age 6  Westminster, Middlesex 
LEGG, Rose A Daughter  F age 5  Westminster, Middlesex
LEGG, Walter P Son  M age 4  Westmister,  Middlesex 
LEGG, Edith L Daughter  F age 3  Westminster, Middlesex 
NICHOLLS, Elizth Servant  F age 28  Norfolk   
ATKINS, Sarah Servant  F age 22  Cambridgeshire 
IRE, Emma Servant  F age 17  Kent   

Do any of the names ring any bells?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #12 on: Monday 07 February 11 14:24 GMT (UK) »
bearkat,

I perhaps should have done my Google search before posting last night. It seems S.C.E Legg was a writer of an Old Testament "article" in the 1830s (??? - I am not knowledgeable about the various tidbits like these.) However, it does seem odd that his name is penciled in. *shrugs*

But, let's assume that the Legg family is truly connected with Fanny Eyre Wood ...

If the family you found is the same Fanny - what happened to the "Wood"  part of her name? Was that her maiden name? Based on what you found, in 1858, Fanny would have been 22 ... perhaps still unmarried.  "Eyre" Would have been an unusual middle name for a female.  Hence why I thought that was her maiden name and Wood was her married name.

Blech - I guess I don't have enough to go on. According to the person who has the bible, there isn't anything else written in the bible to go on (place, family members, etc - any of the typical things you find in a family bible).

I was so hoping that a Fanny Eyre Wood and a cousin Parker would just jump out and bite us in the _____  :D  Naturally, it isn't all THAT easy!

Thanks so much for trying. I will definitely keep the information you found and see if it ends up being a piece of the puzzle. 
Eyre: Co. Kilkenny/Co. Wexford, Ireland
Bradley: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Christie: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Thompson: W. Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Taylor: Woodbury, Litchfield Co., CT -> Manhattan, NY 
Wood: Delevin, MN -> Greene, NY -> Bergen, NJ


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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 February 11 14:56 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though the bible is dated 1858 - four years before her marriage.  In 1858 she would have been known by her maiden name, from 1862 she would have been known by her married name of LEGG.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 February 11 17:55 GMT (UK) »
I think the evidence is too coincidental for this to not be the same Fanny that is in the bible. I'll keep digging, but until I final contradictory evidence, I'll assume that this is the same person.

Thank you SO much for your assistance. I truly appreciate you taking the time.
Eyre: Co. Kilkenny/Co. Wexford, Ireland
Bradley: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Christie: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Thompson: W. Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Taylor: Woodbury, Litchfield Co., CT -> Manhattan, NY 
Wood: Delevin, MN -> Greene, NY -> Bergen, NJ

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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 February 11 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

This looks like Fanny's christening,

Fanny Eyre WOOD
16 Mar 1837, Dorking Surrey
Parents: Thomas Christopher and Ann WOOD
Abode:  High Street
Occupation:  Surgeon


I think her parent's marriage might explain the cousin PARKER,

Thomas Christopher WOOD
Ann PARKER
16 Nov 1833
oddly there is no place listed ???

So if Ann had a brother one of his children would be cousin PARKER.



Googling it seems S.C.E LEGG was Stanley Charles Edmund LEGG  b.1872 and that he was writing articles in the 1930s and1940s.

http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-no2002-52856


I think he was Fanny's son,

Birth
Stanley Charles E LEGG    Jun Q 1872    St George Hanover Square    1a  345


1881  RG11/106  f.51  p.28  St George Hannover Square
120 Grosvenor Road

Walter E   LEGG    Head    41    Copper Merchant Smith    Middlessex Paddington
Fanny E      "        Wife    44                                              "        Chelsea
Trudy E      "        Daur    16    Scholar                                 "        Pimlico
Rose A       "        Daur    15        "                                      "           "
Walter J     "         Son    14        "                                       "            "   
Edith L       "        Daur    13        "                                       "            "
Stanley C. E. "      Son      8        "                                       "            "
Jane COFFIN        Servant  27    General Domestic Servant    Dorsetshire Stourpaine
Maria INCHCOMBE  Servant 22    Housemaid   "  "                  ?Kent Bridger?
 

Regards,
Daisy

 
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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 17 February 11 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Daisy -

You're a Saint!  ;D
What beautiful information.

I never could find via Google what Legg's initials stood for ... and you did AND correlated them with Fannie.  What a find!

Thank you SO SO very much!

Thank you for everyone's help. I can't believe a random mention of someone that was on the same page as the persons this thread was focused on would be the someone I was looking for ... you just NEVER know!
Eyre: Co. Kilkenny/Co. Wexford, Ireland
Bradley: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Christie: Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
Thompson: W. Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Taylor: Woodbury, Litchfield Co., CT -> Manhattan, NY 
Wood: Delevin, MN -> Greene, NY -> Bergen, NJ

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Re: Sclater, Philip Lutley
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 17 February 11 14:35 GMT (UK) »
I'm very glad to have helped :)

Daisy
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