where is urban number 7

[goggy]

Don' mention getting 'lost' with urban no's joebhoy!If you are just entering this netherworld of Irish genealogy,take a bottle of wate and a bag of sandwiches.
I have a Stret address,no number,a birth cert;and urban no,changed since obtained,no answer from present site.
Also have checked ALL occupant's of said street,no sign of the name I'm after.Lot's of name's I now know "engraved on my heart"and some maybe family,in law's and friend's.
So, if your sanity is important think carefully about your going where even Devil's fear to tread!!
                   Goggy.

[runningbear]

wow goggy!!!, have i opened a can of worms regarding urban numbers?how did you manage to get a street name?

[esse]

Thanks for the explanations, pentio, goggy etc., I'm very new to Irish research and know nothing about this Urban numbering thing. Is there anywhere I can look up approximate areas in 1865 for Urban 3? And what might a listed birthplace of "332,belfast No 6,ant,ire" imply? Urban 6 in Belfast, and 332 possibly a subdivision of it? I'm afraid my geography of Antrim is minimal, but I'm willing to learn..!

- esse

[Cell]

how did you manage to get a street name?

 Hi,
After reading this thread, and also curious to see what they list with the ones that have urban numbers- I  randomly picked 3  births to view off the UHF site  that had urban numbers listed ( I had a few spare credits to use up). All three of the ones that I viewed listed an exact street address and even a number of the house.

I think you may have been just unlucky with your birth details Joe, as a few of them with urban numbers do seem to list the st address and also the house number. 
Just like many other things in life, and like other parts of the United Kingdom, I think it just depends on the person who is filling out the forms if they list their exact address - I have a few birth  certs from the  NI GRO(my grandmother's  for one,which just says Loughconnelly on hers)  where it just gives the area of where they are born and no street  or house name ( and they are without urban numbers the ones I have for my own family that do not list their exact addresses)

These  below are off the three births which I randomly picked that had urban numbers ,one before 1898 and two after that date:

Urban 3 Belfast (1895):
 13 LIFFEY ST

Urban 6 Belfast (1900):
11 WANSBECK STREET

Urban 2 Belfast (1907):
26 GAINSBOROUGH DRIVE


Kind Regards

[runningbear]

hi esse, hopefully you will read the message below yours, once again someone has a birth before the 1898 reshuffle of the housing laws, my geography is rubbish as well and that's why i thought that the urban numbers took in a few streets, esse the more people that add to this thread the more we will get an understanding of just exactly what happened all those years ago

[runningbear]

hi cell, well done, good promotion for the uhf site, if that is the answer to all our problems that is wonderful, do you pay £6 for each search cell?, it is worth a try i think, could clear up a lot of confusion for everyone

[runningbear]

hi cell, have come across the uhf stuff i printed off earlier, i have 5 of the same persons name, 3 of the 5 have street names would you believe that the one i want just says ligoniel! would you credit that!

any help to anyone, i have urban number 5 (1871)

divas street

i wonder how many streets there was in ligoniel in 1892?

anybody any idea?

[esse]

Thanks Cell, Liffey Street gives me at least some idea of where Urban 3 may be - it's not listed as a street on Google Maps for Belfast, but doing a bit of searching I can see it's associated with Lower Oldpark - and there are plenty of Oldpark streetnames just north of the Crumlin Road, which is the kind of area where my Derry Street is.  But I'm still learning about Belfast street geography.

It just surprises me that I can't find any maps corresponding to the Urban numbering schemes, which would make it really easy. Does anyone know if any exist online?

- Esse

[runningbear]

your doing well esse, let's hope there's something on-line, how did you associate urban number 3 with lower oldpark?