where is urban number 7

[J.A.M.]

I found another address.
91 Albert Bridge Road in 1885 was in Castlereagh No. 1
J.A.M.

[hmc]

Hi all,

Castlereagh No. 1 in 1885  - I'm not so sure about this. As discussed earlier districts change over time and as far as I can make out GRO only recorded the district as Castlereagh back then. The address is probably now in Castlereagh No. 1.

If you look at the GRO index they have a District and a Centre. The Centre I think has only been used since 1972 / 3 which is the date from which the current councils exist. So I presume prior to 1972 / 3 everthing was just registered as Castlereagh, and since 1972 / 3 it has been No1, No2 etc.

The exception to this is Belfast which has been recording 'sub-districts' for many many years, anything from BU1 to BU16. I presume this is due to the numbers in Belfast.

Interestingly, although frustrating, is the fact that GRO can tell you which Belfast District a street is in but they are unable to tell you all the streets in a given district.

While I'm on about it are we soon going to have  'Inner East', and 'North West' recorded as districts as the councils are due to become super councils in the next few years.

HMC

[hmc]

Hi again,

Come to think of it I can't see how 91 Albertbridge Road could be in Castlereagh, surely it's Belfast. I have 306 Albertbridge Road as BU12 in 1917, and Clermont Lane (used to at the bottom of Woodstock / Albertbridge) as Belfast in 1895.

HMC

[Butlerclan]

Can I add my twopennyworth to this thread please?

While looking for BMD certs for my husband's familymembers in West Belfast I have noted that nearly all of the refs are for Nos 10 or 3.   No 10 covers Disraeli St off the upper Crumlin Road, and No 3 lower down the Crumlin Road - Brookfield St Ghent St. Walton St and Upper Malvern St.  The dates range from 1873 to 1902.  This suggests to me that the lower numbers are for older areas of Belfast and higher for the rapidly expanding outer limits.

Hope this helps.

Butlerclan

[runningbear]

so pleased to see this is still a good topic for inquiries for urban numbers.

hope you found all your certs butterclan.

how frustrating it must have been hmc to learn that the gro can you which district a street is in but cannot tell you the streets in a district!!!!!!

total madness!!!!!

[J.A.M.]

Check the attached for Castlereagh No. 1. I can't quite make out the address of Mary Agnes.
If anyone has any information on any McCalmont I would appreciate a pm. Thanks.
J.A.M.

[teap78]

Hi J.A.M the address is number 4  CLANBRASSIL TERRACE which was of Castlereagh street Mountpottinger.

Castlereagh Street ran from the Albert Bridge Road to the Beersbridge Road.


Colette

[J.A.M.]

Colette,
Thank you very much for the clarification of the street name.
J.A.M.

[kptz]

I have found this thread interesting reading!  I have different urban numbers and districts for the same area:

1888 marriage certificate
      RC church of St. Matthews, registrar district CASTLEREAGH, union of BELFAST, County DOWN
             Groom lived at 41 Vulcun Street
             Bride live at 171 Mountpottinger Road

1900 birth certificate
     Registered in the District of BELFAST URBAN 11
         address 195 Mountpottinger Road

1904 death certificate
    Registered in the District of BELFAST URBAN 11
        address 195 Mountpottinger Road

1923 marraige certificate
    RC church of St. Matthews  (same church as the 1888 marriage above)
          registrar's district of URBAN 16, Union of BELFAST, County DOWN
              groom lived at 18 Seaforde Street
              bride lived at 3 Newtonards Rd

1939 death certificate
    Registered n the District of BELFAST URBAN 16
        address is 36 Seaforde Street

It appears that the Urban number changed in the interim from 11 to 16.