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Re: where is urban number 7
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 20 June 06 23:21 BST (UK) »
thanks pentio, this is growing to be an important issue with some people, like me they are desperate for some sort of direction in their urban numbers.
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Re: where is urban number 7
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 20 June 06 23:29 BST (UK) »
joe

I will do my best to get to the bottom of it........we will get the answer soon i hope.

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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 20 June 06 23:33 BST (UK) »
yes my man...... sounds very promising... pentio if you can sort this out now or in the near future this thread will help lots of people understand the policy behind urban numbers and it will also help those who are about to join rootsweb
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Re: where is urban number 7
« Reply #39 on: Friday 30 June 06 10:37 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

I've just been redirected to this thread, I had just asked the same question.

I have a birth record from 1867 which gives birth place as
268, No 1 Belfast, Antrim.

Hope someone can work this number business out

Maureen

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Bradshaw Belfast
Jones Holywell Flintshire
Hendren Ayrshire
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Re: where is urban number 7
« Reply #40 on: Friday 30 June 06 11:08 BST (UK) »
keep your fingers crossed maureen, this whole thread is all about urban numbers, looks like you have urban number 1, but i do not know what the number 268 relates to? maybe a house number? pentio is trying to get to the bottom of it all, for us.
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Re: where is urban number 7
« Reply #41 on: Friday 30 June 06 14:32 BST (UK) »
ok ive got urban 4 1882
address 11 Balaclava Street thats of the lower falls road
 
1904
The belfast work house was also Urban no4 (its now the
City hospital)

1889
29 Ton Street is also no 4 that was down around Balaclava Street be side saint Peters Church.


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Re: where is urban number 7
« Reply #42 on: Friday 30 June 06 16:39 BST (UK) »
Dispensary Districts were created by the Medical Charities Act 1851.  When state registration of births and deaths started in 1864, each Registrar's District was coterminous with a Dispensary District, and each Superintendent Registrar's District was coterminous with a Poor Law District (containing a number of Dispensary Districts).

In urban areas, Dispensary Districts (and therefore Registration Districts) were often referred to by number, presumably in order to avoid the confusion of differing usages of names.

Over time, boundaries of Dispensary Districts and Registration Districts have changed - in all formal changes which I have found, the boundaries are defined my mereings (verbal descriptions), not by maps.

My personal experience (when my father died in April 2006) is that Registration Districts in Northern Ireland do not to this very day have maps to define their area.  How on earth do they cope, you might ask - you will hardly believe it, but the Registrar rang the binmen in her District Council, and asked them if they collected from my father's house!

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« Reply #43 on: Friday 30 June 06 16:58 BST (UK) »
well done Colette, hopefully you can map the area off and say to everyone that urban number 4 runs from...... street to ..... street and within its boundaries it contains......... streets, i am so pleased you have come up with this information regarding urban number 4, as it will give everyone a fair idea of how many streets are involved in an urban area. does the 1969 street directory give any indication as to the whereabouts of urban numbers?
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« Reply #44 on: Friday 30 June 06 17:06 BST (UK) »
that is some story Adrian about the binmen!!, thanks for sharing your personal experience with us, sorry to hear about the death of your father, my thoughts are with you at this time, regarding the districts and urban numbers, you have explained it all very well, i must say that if the local registrar cannot identify the urban areas(and she works for the council) what chance do we have?
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