where is urban number 7

[esse]

Mad Googling   For "Liffey Street" Belfast. It's definitely Crumlin area.

[t_creaney]

Liffey Street definetely off the lower Oldpark Road, just where it splits off from the Crumlin Road. There were a whole bunch of streets there called after Irish rivers, Liffey, Shannon, Suir and others. I think most of it has now been knocked down now. I think Derry Street was off the other side of the Crumlin Road a bit further up and heading through towards the Shankhill.

terry

[runningbear]

thanks terry, hope esse picks this one up, have you got urban numbers too?

[t_creaney]

Not got a clue Joe.... I lived in the area as a boy, thats how I know the street names but I never really came across the numbers thing until you started this thread. Most of my ancestors were from outside the city.

terry

[Cell]

, do you pay £6 for each search cell?, it is worth a try i think, could clear up a lot of confusion for everyone

yes, same as you. -  5 views just on the given name that you buy.
I'm beginning to think it would be much cheaper if I paid a researcher to trace some of my lot ( but that's half the fun gone though isn't it) . The amount of money I've spent on the UHF site . oh why, oh why can't  people look at a few different names for 6 quid I don't know ( especially when it comes to simple spelling variants such as McNeill and Mcneil - you have to look at them both, and pay 6 pounds each for both searches on the names).

 I personally think it's a rip off regrading this. If you could search on  a few different names for the 6 pounds, I for one would take out a year membership with them ( I think you only get charged 4 pounds with them them  for your searches if your a member and also access to some of the other areas of the site) . I think they would have a lot more customers if they changed their search method, in turn it would generate more money for them in the end of course.

kind regards

[pentio]

Hi Joe....Esse

I have a very good knowledge of Belfast so if you have any queries please let me know and i will do my best to help you out

Joe

re your inquiry Belfast schools we talked about here is a link you may wish to look at ...it gives complete listings of all schools in Belfast with registers deposited in PRONI along with a reference number for each school it would help you before your visit to PRONI.

www.sag.org.au/aisnltrs/AISN0113.pdf

I also know that the PRONI have a list of old ordnance survey maps from 1830 to 1950 which would show how many streets were in the Ligoneil area in 1892

I am still checking out this Urban number thing for you its more complicated than i first thought......another explanation i got today was that Belfast was divided into grids and each grid was given a number.... for example North Belfast was allocated Urban 10...... these were used for ease of administration.

we will get to the bottom of it soon.

best wishes

pentio.

[runningbear]

complicated pentio! don't say that! surely there a logical reasoning behind it! maybe the logic behind it is that they knew that one day amateur genealogist would be looking it up and trying to figure it out, so they hid the files in proni!!!!, grid numbers sound quite feasible, but would that not be too big an area to call it an urban number?

[runningbear]

totally agree 100% cell, we are getting ripped off, but not just with UHF but with most genealogy sites, our hunger for knowledge is costing us, but never mind, we can only pay once, for we will take notes and pass it down the line to others, they will never need to use these sites, so in a few years they will be so desperate for customers, they will be offering free membership, back to the important bit, urban numbers, there is a good site called lennonwylie.co.uk that has lots of street address's for the likes of esse who may have not visited the site yet or for your self maybe, pentio is doing a lot of research into this, so hopefully we have an answer soon

[runningbear]

terry pal, please excuse my ignorance of northern ireland, from what you say about your family being born outside of Belfast, does this mean that only Belfast had the urban numbers?