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Re: ALLSOPP - Researching Family Name
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Christine,

I can't see an obvious entry for these Alsop's on the 1851 census, however Jane could have married/emigrated by then and the parents could have died.

I can't find them on the 1841 either, sorry!

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YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Not just me then Legs ??? :D

Sorry Christine.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: ALLSOPP - Researching Family Name
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 12:08 GMT (UK) »


Thank you again, Legs & Jan.

What a pain, eh? :(  Not being able to find them.  Thomas and Jane with baby Esther migrated to Australia in May 1853.

Thank you both for all your help - it's has been great!

All the best,

Christine
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(GLS) EVANS.
(Dorset) DAVIS, BUTT, LAWRENCE.
(Scotland) WEIR, PEAT(PEET), PATON, MOORE.
(Ireland) CRILLY, COOLEY.
(Lancashire) HATTON, FLEETWOOD, HALL.
(Cambridgeshire) WEEKS, BRADLEY, MARTIN, ROOK.
(Kent) COOLEY
(Essex) BENTON.
(Shropshire) MORRIS.

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Re: ALLSOPP - Researching Family Name
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 14:39 GMT (UK) »
If I were you Christine I'd post a thread on the Ireland boards with a link to this thread so people don't duplicate info.

If Jane was born in Ireland they might be able to locate a birth and/or marriage for her over there.

Do you have any info saying where Esther was born?  Might help narrow down the country at least...?  I think you said the ship documents had Thomas and Jane's birth countries written on them, what did it say about Esther?

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YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams


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Re: ALLSOPP - Researching Family Name
« Reply #40 on: Monday 10 March 08 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mallow, Have you looked for a will? I notice there is a will at Lichfield for Thomas Alsop of Uttoxeter proved 27 Oct 1830. Thomas Allsop of Bramshall May 2 1838 & Thomas Alsop of Walsall Dec 16 1839. Copies can be ordered from Lichfield Record Office & as you say he moved around so anything is possible.
   You certainly should avoid the trap of spellings as I have found Allsop spelled in 3 different ways in one will -twice when the clerk spelled the testator's name differently & then the testator himself spelled his own name differently again when he signed! You need to look at any Thomas including Orsoppe! Remember if he was moving around his accent (or maybe his wife's was not as clearly understood or perhaps the clerk was hard of hearing!
   Do you have a date of death for Sarah? Or her maiden name? Where was she born? Where did they all live after 1841? All these things could provide a clue.
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Re: ALLSOPP - Researching Family Name
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much Kayzee, I always thought that Thomas being a Schoolmaster might have left a will he died in 1840 in Lichfield, Sarah died in 1857 her maiden name was Dilks and they all lived in Lichfield after 1841 until they died so any Allsopp wills in Lichfield would interest me, I will keep all that information you sent me  in mind in future.

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Re: ALLSOPP - Researching Family Name
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mallow,
             Sadly my Thomas wills were a little early for your Thomas. But what about the Dilks family? I have had great success with early Allsop  generations using wills from other surnames which are related, surely with a name like Dilks there would not be too many wills to look through? I assume you know of the Allsop Family Group run by Winifred?
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Re: ALLSOPP - Researching Family Name
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Kayzee  :) I never thought of Winifred even though I am a member of the Allsopp group, I will also have a look at Dilks. I dont suppose you came accross any Allsopp wills for 1867 in Lichfield, it seems to be easier to get them further back.

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« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mallow

What is the Allsopp Family Group? How do you join?

Jan ;)

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge