Walkers of Masham/Fearby - parish records ?

[davidft]

Glad the notes were of some use.

I had seen Matthew in Cramlington in 1851 but did not mention it as I wanted you to see the other information first. There is also the matter of a death in 1845 that needs to be ruled out

Deaths Sep 1845   
WALKER  Matthew     Bedale  24 189

(Bedale is the correct district for Masham)

Yes I found Matthew in Ellingstring in 1841. Actually on the opposite page is a David Walker 15 apprentice blacksmith who was my ancestor. It is possible the two are connected some way back but it will have to be at least at great grandfather level.

You wrote Crayke ? in your reply. Yes Crayke is a place in North Yorkshire about 25 Miles from Masham.

If I find anything in the future ( ie when findmypast publish the North Yorkshire records) I will let you know

[neilsmum]

Hi - thanks for your reply.  I thought perhaps I should investigate the death of Matthew and because he was resident in Cramlington in 1851 (census) I looked for deaths of a Matthew Walker between 1851 and 1861 when his wife was described as widow and found one.  As Matthew was a miner I checked with the Durham Mining Museum data to see if he had been killed in a mine accident but he wasn't listed so I then checked ordinary deaths in Northumberland and I found one:  Matthew Walker death registered Dec 1860 ref 10b 151 Tynemouth.  I then checked to see what area Tynemouth reg district covered and it does include Cramlington, so I am reasonably confident that the 1860 death is Matthew.  I was wondering if just Matthew moved to Cramlington circa 1851 or whether others moved too.  I know brother William didn't move until after his marriage in 1855 and birth of his two children in 1857 and 1859 respectively but am now going to see if maybe Robert moved too - if of course he had not already died !!  It is just so frustrating to find a glimpse of Robert but not being able to follow him through.  I'll keep trying !!  Thanks again for your correspondence.

[aytonkiwi]

Hi Sandy - are you still happy to send me the details of Mary Walker/husband and children ?  I would be interested to see it.  Thanks, Margaret .....

Hi Margaret
Sorry about the delay - got side-tracked. Here's one generation general info about Mary Walker. Let me know if you require more.

MARY WALKER  died 3 July 1900 in Hipswell. 
She married JAMES POUNDER 1 June 1850 in Catterick, son of ROBERT POUNDER and SARAH HARRISON. 
He was born 23 July 1826 in Christened at Hipswell Catterick, and died 2 December 1890, Richmond records.
James Pounder was a Shoemaker Master of, Tunstall Village/Catterick
   
Children of MARY WALKER and JAMES POUNDER are:
•   WILLIAM POUNDER, b. 13 July 1851, Christened Tunstall, Catterick; d. Abt. September 1920, Richmond records. Married Alice Weighill
•   ELIZABETH POUNDER, b. 9 April 1854, Christened at Catterick / Tunstall; d. 7 May 1892, Darlington. Married James Vayro
•   SARAH ANNE POUNDER, b. 23 November 1856, Tunstall, Yks; d. Aft. 1911; m. JOSEPH CRABTREE, Abt. June 1875, Richmond District; b. Abt. 1849, Tunstall, Yks.
•   .   MARTHA POUNDER, b. 17 April 1859, Tunstall, Catterick; d. Abt. September 1937, Richmond records. Married John Metcalfe
•   JOSEPH POUNDER, b. 29 December 1861, Tunstall, Catterick; d. Aft. 1901. Married Eliza Hodgson
•   THOMAS POUNDER, b. 15 May 1864, Tunstall, Yks; d. Aft. 1911. Married Ann Elizabeth Merrington
•   MARY POUNDER, b. 4 September 1868, Tunstall; d. Aft. 1901. Married Thomas Watson Bell
•   ROBERT (JAMES) POUNDER, b. January 1871, Tunstall; d. after 1891. Never married?

[aytonkiwi]

Hi

I don’t know if you have sorted your Robert Walker out but as I was looking at the Masham registers yesterday, (I also have Walkers from Masham), I thought I would have a look at your Robert too.

Marriages
24 November 1819 Robert Walker husbandman and Elizabeth Berry, spinster, both of this parish, by banns were married. Both sign (she signs Elisabeth). Witnesses Christopher Walker, Matthew Metcalf and Mary Handley
30 June 1822 Robert Walker, bachelor, and Elizabeth Haykins, spinster, both of this parish, by banns, both mark. Witnesses Farey (sic) Wilson and Mattw (sic) Metcalf
21 March 1836 Robert walker widower, and Elisabeth (sic) Marsden spinster, both of this parish, by banns, both mark.  Witnesses John Howe (mark) and Chrisr (sic) Marsden

Baptisms
8 June 1823 Matthew son of Robert and Elizabeth Walker, Fearby. Labourer
29 March 1825 William son of Robert and Elizabeth Walker, Fearby. Labourer
5 December 1827 Mary daughter of Robert and Elizabeth Walker, Fearby. Labourer
Earlier baptism
29 January 1797 Robert son of Robert and Mary Walker, Warthermarske.
(from 1803 baptism of daughter Mary it is revealed that Robert snr was a husbandman and Mary was Mary Thorpe before marriage)

Burial
12 December 1834 Elizabeth Walker of Fearby aged 45

Conjecture
It looks to me that your Robert Walker is the one born 1797 above. He marries first Elizabeth Haykins in 1822 who is the mother of his children. She dies in 1834 and he remarries in 1836 to Elizabeth Marsden. Therefore the Elizabeth on the 1841 is not the mother of Mary but the step mother.

Elizabeth Haykins was not baptised in Masham. (I also wonder if Haykins is a bad attempt at Hawkins)

The identity of the further child Matthew might prove useful in trying to take the family back.

I understand the difficulty trying to trace Walkers in Yorkshire as it is something like the fourth most common surname there. Findmypast are supposed to be putting Yorkshire parish records onto their site and when I contacted them in January they said they were making good progress and to expect news “later this year” so maybe when they arrive they will help.

Incidentally you said you had Robert, Elizabeth and Mary in 1851. I couldn’t find that do you have a reference so I could look it up please.

Warthermarske is two and a half miles from Fearby and two miles from Masham.

Many thanks for the Masham records - that's really helped.

Robert and Elizabeth are in the 1851 census as follows
Ecclesiastical district St Paul's Healey; Registration district Leyburn; Enumeration district 2, Series HO107, Piece number 2379; Folio 21, Page 8

Mary - married as Mrs James Pounder is in 1851 as follows
Ecclesiastical district Catterick; Registration district Richmond; Enumeration district 6 & 8; Series HO107; Piece number 2381; Folio 340; Page 2

 Cheers Sandy