William Ralph of Bilston

[Willow 4873]

Will let you know when I have got it 

[Charlieralph]

O.K. Its allways nice when you get that cert via the postman and you can prove a line and open a new female line with both hers and farthers name (instant jump back one more generation) which you need anyway for her line.
As regards Thomas Ralph 1834. Ive just had an e-mail from a guy in the US and it would appear that Thomas had 2 brothers Joseph and James (no DOB supplied as yet) so you have a strong possibility that your line is from one of them, will be interesting to prove and worth looking for in the available census for both James and Joseph Ralph

[Willow 4873]

Thanx for that will go and have a dig in the census

[Charlieralph]

Happy days.  Ive now linked William to a 1807 birth which goes to prove you cant allways go off census age which he gave as a birth date of 1811 anyway information as follows:

Thomas Ralph Christening 4th Jan 1835 Bilston
Parents William Ralph /Elizabeth Perry
Married St Peters Wolverhampton 17th Dec 1832

Elizabeth Perry Christened 21 July 1811 Bilston
William Ralph Christened 25th Oct 1807 Bilston
Brothers:- James Ralph Christened 12th Aug 1816 Bilston
                 Joseph Ralph Ch             20 Sept 1812 Bilston

Parents William Ralph/ Mary Fletcher
Married St Peters Wlverhampton12th July 1802
Mary died of Cholera in 1832 age 55.Bur Swan Bank Church.

Thanks for all your help. One Happy Ralph. Your line should come from James 1816  or Joseph 1812

[Willow 4873]

Ok thanx for that at least I know where I am looking now

 

[Charlieralph]

Found your Thomas in the 1871 census as follows:-
No2 Court, Prunkney St Wolverhampton
Mathew Ralph Head age47 Blank tray maker born W`ton
Elizabeth        Wife   age44 Born Walsall
Ellen                D       age18 House work born Bilston
John                S       age 15 Safe Maker          Bilston
Thomas           S       age 13 Bottle Jack Maker Bilston
Ann                 D       age11  Sch                       W`ton
Leteice            D       age 5                                W`ton
Harriet             D       age 1                               W`ton

Mathew Ralph Married Lettice Bate 5th Oct 1819 at Tipton Staffordshire

Mathew Ralph Christening 12th Sept 1824 St Leonard, Bilston. Parents Thomas and Lettice
Other offsring of Thomas and Lettice:-
Elizabeth 21st March 1820. St Leonard
Sarah 21st April 1822. St Leonard Bilston.

The link with my tree gets nearer but still not proved

[Willow 4873]

Thats brilliant thanx

Have found out the following about Thomas' children

James joined the Staffords and is listed in the 1901 census as being at Aldershot military base

Matthew also joined the Staffords and his army number was 3618 (found him on the medal rolls)

Letitia and Eliza had a joint wedding to a Karl Hermann Kuhnitzsch and a Walter Leslie Hale in 1910 at Marylebone (not sure who married who)

When I find out any more I will let you know

Willow x

[Charlieralph]

I THINK THE THOMAS 3nd of APRIL 1785 IS A STRONG PROBABLE FOR THOMAS /LETTICE BUT IS AN UNPROVED LINK, THIS WOULD PUT THOMAS AT 34YEARS OLD AT MARRIAGE.
Francis Ralph unknown (End of the line)
                          Elizabeth Westwood
    Francis Ralph married Elizabeth Westwood 29th May 1769 at St Peters Wolverhampton
Offspring :- William Christened St. Leonard’s Bilston 29nd April 1780
                    Thomas Christened St. Leonard’s Bilston 2nd April 1785
                    Sarah   Christened St. Leonard’s Bilston  21 Aug 1774 Buried St. Leonard’s Bilston 18th Nov 1774
                    Nancy Christened St. Leonard’s Bilston  21 Aug   1774 Buried St. Leonard’s Bilston 19th Oct 1776
                    Francis Christened St. Leonard’s Bilston  22nd Oct1775 may have died no record found
                    Francis Christened St. Leonard’s Bilston  10th Oct 1782

[RachelK]

Hi Charlie and Willow,

I think I am descended from a Letitia Ralph who was born 1880 Wolves and the half sis of your William Hilton, Willow. (Have e-mailed you on Genes Reunited and saw your link to here)

I've found references for Letitia Ralph marrying Joseph Kendrick (my gt grandfather) in 1900. (on 1901 census) Both the names Ralph and Letitia run in my family. My father's first name is Ralph as is my brother's middle name. I hope I have the right connection Willow and that also we establish a connection with your Ralphs, Charlie!