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Offline Charlieralph

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William Ralph of Bilston
« on: Friday 22 October 04 14:50 BST (UK) »
Any body any information on William Ralph born c1811
in the Bilston Wolvehampton area
He married Elizabeth Perry in 1832 at St.Peters Wolverhampton
Known offspring Thomas Ralph c1834 of Bilston
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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 October 04 15:07 BST (UK) »
I have a Thomas Ralph who was my Great Grandmothers first husband but he was born 1858 in Bilston

Might be related...... or not.......
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and is for academic and non-commercial research purposes only Researching: Hilton (Wolverhampton & Tamworth) , Simkiss & Mears (Wolverhampton & Somerset) Bowkett & Nash (Ledbury & Wolverhampton) Knight & Beard (Gloucestershire), Colley (Tibberton) Hoggins (Willenhall) Jones (Bilston), Harris & Bourne (Droitwich) Matthews (Wolverhampton & High Offley) Partridge (Monmouthshire)

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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 October 04 15:27 BST (UK) »
Thomas Ralph born 1834 did have a first born son also named Thomas born in Bilston about this time.Ill check over the records for you this weekend. Just may be a link
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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 October 04 15:33 BST (UK) »
Okey Dokey! It could well be the same one
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and is for academic and non-commercial research purposes only Researching: Hilton (Wolverhampton & Tamworth) , Simkiss & Mears (Wolverhampton & Somerset) Bowkett & Nash (Ledbury & Wolverhampton) Knight & Beard (Gloucestershire), Colley (Tibberton) Hoggins (Willenhall) Jones (Bilston), Harris & Bourne (Droitwich) Matthews (Wolverhampton & High Offley) Partridge (Monmouthshire)


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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 October 04 07:37 BST (UK) »
Sorry
The other Thomas I have came along much later but somehow a connection must be in the family, as so few Ralphs lived in the Bilston area and he maybe a son of Thomas Ralph christened 4th Jan 1835 at Bilston
Genes Reunited also have a Thomas Ralph 1858 posted.
Do you have any more detail on your Ralph tree which may help both our searches?
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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 October 04 10:20 BST (UK) »
No sorry I don't I only found out about him went someone kindly looked up my Great Grandmother when I couldn't find some of my Great Uncles who turned out to be from her first marriage to Thomas

The Thomas Ralph posted on Genes Reunited is mine and all I know is that he was born c1858 and they were married in 1877. I don't know what happened to him after that whether he died or they divorced but Mary married Henry Hilton in 1889

I agree that there must be some connection because Ralph is not a common surname in Bilston but he could have come down another branch of your family

I will have to check further and let you know

I have checked on family search and there is listed in the 1881 census as living in Bilston

Thomas - 39 - Iron worker
Louisa - 41
Henry J - 17
Thomas - 14
Louisa - 12
Annie M - 10
Eliza Jane - 8

There is also Eliza Ralph aged 60

Strange thing is one of my Thomas Ralph's daughters is called Eliza to so I guess there is some connection

The link is http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp if you want to do a seach
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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 October 04 12:18 BST (UK) »
I take it that Thomas married Mary Ann Mears 1877
Taken from Wolverhampton records Volume 6b Page 660.
Have you got or sent for a copy of the wed cert as this will give parents name which hopefully once again will be Thomas Ralph ?
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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 October 04 12:21 BST (UK) »
No sorry I haven't got round to it yet  :(

On my Grandfathers birth certificate Mears was spelt Meers
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Re: William Ralph of Bilston
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 October 04 12:42 BST (UK) »
Same as Ralph can be Rolfe /ralphs and so on. The wedding cert can be ordered on line via

http://web1.netnation.com/~bmsgh/staffsbmd/marriages.html
Information found on Thomas and Mary marriage:-
England and Wales, Civil Registration Index: 1837-1983
Viewing record 1 of 1 match for: 
Mary Mears 
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Name Year Quarter District County Volume Page
 
MEARS, Mary Ann 1877 March Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands 6b 660
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