William Ralph of Bilston

[RachelK]

  Well I haven't a clue what these Mears were on about but...

On 1871 census there are 316 matches for people saying they were born Appleton, Lancashire. So were they all wrong/lying or have the boundaries changed at some point and it's been part of both counties?

As for Harriet's Griesly, Leicestershire she is the ONLY match, so that looks like a definite lie. Nothing similar on the place names lists on genuki either.

The Boffy family which you thought were connected, why do you now think that's wrong? Because they appear to be twins therefore Hannah & Harriet should be same age, or something else?

[RachelK]

Oh and the year of births are too early, didn't notice that. Obviously not got my thinking cap on today.

[Willow 4873]

Well even if it didnt pan out was worth knowing

Charlie where do I find details of the methodist circuit? I've just found out my Great Grandmothers maiden name but they were all methodist too so having a right game trying to find marriages for her siblings. Why arent methodists listed like any other BMD?

Willow x

[Charlieralph]

Appleton Cheshire?

http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/appleton.htm

As and from 1832 its been in North Cheshire or does another Appleton exist in Lancashire?

Mears line could well be at an end and Griesly? not even looked for it, but could be more boundry changes. I think its in Derbyshire,

Methodist records. Ill e-mail you but don't get your hopes up.
Charlie

[Charlieralph]

Found a Griesly but not in Leicestershire but in Crewe Cheshire. I just wonder if this is Bargee folk again?
Don't forget as you will find out from any wedding certs on order that the family are mainly illiterate, so anything goes to get rid of that bloke on the doorstep asking questions.
Charlie

[Willow 4873]

ok thanks Charlie case of if I dont try I wont know

I think Greisly was a misspelling anyway on the census. I know theres a Graisley but thats an area in Wolverhampton

Willow x

[Charlieralph]

Rachel, you should have your e-mail.
Not all marriages have been placed on line as yet. Its always worth coming back and checking for anything missing in a years time.
Staffordshire BDM is growing all the time but once again it will be years before its complete.
Its also worth remembering that someone can be christened John Thomas but know as Thomas so the census and the recorded birth name can be different.
My great granddad with known as Charles William Ralph
but it turned out he was a William Charles Ralph. It lead me a dance for months.
Charlie

[RachelK]

Got the mail Charlie thanks, very helpful explaining about these non conformists.

I know the problem with name changes too, my grandmother was registered Mary Dorine, but always known as Dorine.

Also her mother who I'm still investigating I think changed her surname. Argh!

(btw it was Willow looking for a marriage, hope she got that e-mail too )

[Charlieralph]

Bye the way, have any of you worked out how many shotgun weddings you have?
It well worth checking as most seemed to be at it before marriage. Nothing seems to have changed much over the last couple of hundred years. I can remember my father saying his mother went up the wall and they had to keep it secret and away from his granddad.
Guess what? You got it, his granddad had a shotgun wedding and he was a methodist minister. Just wish dad was still about to tell, he would have loved that one.
Charlie