1871/61 lookup please for VERT family

[Tati]

That's too bad - I was hoping to find him thanks to his family and he's not at home!! 

1901
RG13/422 46 22
Lambeth, London
88 Cowley Rd
Annie E Green, head, mar, 33, Living on own means, b. Brixton
Ernest, son, 13, b. do.
Horace, son, 11, b. do.
Edith A, dau, 8, b. do.
Gladys, dau, 4, b. do.
Ethel B, dau, 3, b. do.

Tanja 

[Tati]

I'm not sure but 1861 shows a son of Jabez Green as Rosina, which could be him..    

Very probably. It's clearly Rosina on the image but 10 years later (though from musician Jabez has turned into a gas fitter) too many family members are alike for this not to be the same family and the 12 year old is now called Berrot.

[Tati]

Found him!

RG13/3213 126 7
Derby St Peter, Derbyshire
Sitwell Street
De Beriot Green, boarder, mar, 45, b. London Lambeth (deafness not mentioned)
Alfred Boyd, boarder, 17, Chorister, b. Denb Ruthin
Leonard Bean, boarder, 22, Chorister, b. Pontavent Brittany France

in the household of Edward Burgess, 46, Iron Moulder, b. Greenwich and his family.

Tanja 
 

[niseone]

Yet again Tanya you have helped me enormously..thanks so much, how clever you are..

So, looks as if he left his family, if wife Annie living off own means..life must have been hard, as a violinist he had to go where the work was I suppose..
It is his daughter Edith's line I'm following. She played double bass.

Jabez is an unusual name don't you think!

Can't seem to find when of if the change from Vert to Green took place..story goes they were originally from Italy.

I was initially told he was Hugo De Beriot Green..there is also mention of a Sphor De Beriot Green, the only reference found to this name is a marriage in 1884. So I think more certificates could be needed now..

Once again a big thank you for all your help.

Denise

[Tati]

So, looks as if he left his family, if wife Annie living off own means..

I thought he might be touring, with the 2 Choristers lodging there as well.

I also thought the Spohr De Beriot Green was the man you are tracing: Wasn't Annie a Marshall?

[Tati]

Not too sure about these but they are the only ones I can see

1841
St Mary, Surrey
HO107/1058/8 10 15
King Street
Jabez Green, 20, Lamp L, yes
Eliza, 20, no
James, 1 year, yes

Sorry for all the Greens  out there but I'm still puzzling why someone, and especially a family of musicians, would change Vert (or perhaps even Verdi if they were Italian) for Green... 

Tanja 

 

[MJP]

Hi Denise,

I don't have any more info on the family for you, but I thought you might find this interesting, although perhaps you already know...  Given that the family were musicians it likely explains where the name De Beriot came from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_B%C3%A9riot

There seems to be one other person in the BMD indexes with that exact name:

Birth: William De Beriot Chapman 1886 Oct-Nov-Dec Chorlton 
Death: William De Beriot Chapman 1887 Jan-Feb-Mar Chorlton 

And this guy too: (Birth) Arthur Beriot Gorgensen 1889 Apr-May-Jun Cardiff 

Maybe their families were musicians too!

MJP

[niseone]

Tanja you're a star 

Yes I believe Annie was a Marshall, some suggestion she was half french and a dancer,  so this is their marriage then? Why wasn't Spohr shown as name in any other records I wonder?

Jabez 1841 I think must be right one..

Can't thank you enough..till next time!!

best regards

Denise

[niseone]

Thanks for the info MJP, you are the second person to suggest that the name may have come from Charles Auguste de Beriot..
What facinating stuff this is.....   

Thanks for your interest too...

Denise