1841/1851 Census - Fazeley - JONES

[Pinetree]

Could SKS possibly find my JONES family for me in Fazeley in 1841 and/or 1851 probably in Fazeley:

Charles JONES Head
Mary Wife b. abt 1803 Glascote, Warks
Elizabeth Dau b. 1831 Fazeley
Joseph Son b. 1838 Fazeley.

Any help much appreciated.

Pinetree

[willow2670]

Hi Pinetree

1851 HO107/2057 Folio 316
Charles Jones Head 40 b Fazeley                   Mechanic
Mary Wife 42 b Tamworth
Mary Dau 16 b Tamworth
Joseph Son 15 b Tamworth
Charles Son 14 b Birmingham
Esther Dau 5 b Birmingham
Hannah Dau 3 b Birmingham
4 C & Princip St , Birmingham, Warwickshire

Sue

[Tati]

Oops - too late!

Hi Pinetree

Is Fazeley in Tamworth?

HO107/981 6 24 8
Tamworth, Staffordshire
Ralph Jones, 55, Cotton Spinner, no
Ellen, 55, no
Joseph, 3, yes

Not finding the others for the moment (IF this was him in the first place!)

Are these possibles?  

1851
HO107/2057 316 16
Birmingham, Warwickshire
C 8 Princip St 4
Charles Jones, head, 40, Mechanic, b. Staffs Fazeley
Mary, wife, 42, b. Tamworth
Mary, dau, 16, b. do.
Joseph, son, 13, b. do.
Charles, son, 11, b. Birmingham
Esther, dau, 5, b. do.
Hannah, dau, 3, b. do.

Tanja  

[willow2670]

1841 HO107/1145/7 Folio 49                  born in county
Charles Jones 30             Engineman           no
Mary 30                                                        no
Mary 5                                                          no
Charles 1                                                     yes
Fazeley St, Birmingham, Warwickshire

Sue

[Pinetree]

Thank you both for this.  I was going to say that I didn't think the B'ham family was mine but just noticed from their daughter's marriage certificate father Charles was a mechanic.  Mmmm 

On 1851 I think I can see an Elizabeth JONES b. 1831 Fazeley residence Warwickshire which could be mine and a Mary JONES b. 1803 Glascote residence Leicestershire possibly her mother.

Could one of you possibly check these out for me  

Pinetree

Ps. Tati - Yes Fazeley is in Tamworth

[Tati]

1851
HO107/2013 153 10
Tamworth, Warwickshire
Church Street
Joseph Bird, head, wid, 74, Labourer for a farmer, b. Staffordshire (can't read)
Elizabeth Bird, dau, " , 52, Washerwoman, b. Warwick Sutton Coldfield
Elizabeth Jones, granddau, " 20, Weaver, b. Staffordshire Fazeley

Not too sure about the meaning of the " for the marital status of the 2 women 

The Mary Jones b. Glascote is married to a William Jones b. Twycross, children all born Twycross.

[Pinetree]

Tati,

That's wonderful 

I'm sure this is my Elizabeth JONES (her daughter married a BARNES!).  I know her mother was Mary BIRD so now I have her Grandad too!

My Elizabeth JONES was spinster when she married in 1852 so I think the enumerator must have got carried away with his " for her marital status at least.

Willow/Tati

Now think B'ham family could be right (how fickle is that  ).  Particularly as Elizabeth was living with Grandad in Tamworth where she married a year later.  Think Mary from Glascote belongs to someone else!

Thanks again to you both 

Pinetree

[tad]

Hi Pinetree,
Just getting into the Bird family again and I think that your Mary and my Joseph are brother and sister.  How about that?
tad

[Pinetree]

Hi Tad,

Great to hear from you again    I guess this makes us some sort of cousins 

I have to confess I have not made any progress with this line.

Have you found a baptism for Joseph? I have Mary's parents as Joseph Bird b. 1777 in Streethay and Elizabeth.  Do you know any more about them?

All the best,

Pinetree