Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area

[johnbhoy]

Agree with all the above posts, the Armstrongs are a complete nightmare to trace.

Same as you guys, I am tracing Armstrongs from Bewcastle and Cummertrees & Annan. Same names cropping up...Little, Scott, Henderson and Wilson

I spent a few years tracing German and Irish ancestors, but the Armstrongs are a nightmare.

I also agree that Scotlands People is far to expensive and informed them so when they emailed a survey to me 

Below is my present status....

William Dixon marries Margaret Mitchell b.Bewcastle in Bewcastle 9-3-1872

David Mitchell b: Bewcastle (Margarets father) marries Mary Armstrong in Bewcastle (no date)

Richard Armstrong (Mary's father) marries Catherine Wilson in Bewcastle 20-6-1824

James Armstrong b. Bewcastle (Richards father) marries Janet Scott 4-4-1789

William Armstrong b; Cummertrees (James' father) marries Mary Henderson

James Armstrong (William's father) born in 1688 marries Catherin(e) Carli(s)le, he then marries an Agnes Haughan (born in Annan 10-9-1728)...I can't believe that age gap, has anyone else come across this before??

A James Mitchell married a Margaret Little in Bewcastle 15-3-1819.

I may take Jeffrey's advice and join the Armstrong Clan Association.

Apologies for jumping in on the post

By the way, the following link is a great link for Armstrongs in Bewcastle..

 http://www.bewcastle.com/inscript.htm

John

[Jeffrey]

Don't know if this is of any help from Bewcastle records
1863 Apr 13:   DAVID MITCHELL(X),37,Pitman, of Clatteringford,s/o James Mitchell,Pitman
   MARY MITCHELL, 34, of Clatteringford, d/o Richard Armstrong, Shoemaker
   (Reputed Husband and Wife by a Gretna Marriage 16 years ago)
   Ws: William Mitchell(X). Jane Mitchell(X)

Definitely worth joining the Armstrong Clan Assoc lots of really good researchers there and lots of information too.

Judy

[johnbhoy]

Smashing Judy, very much appreciated, they are the side of the Family I'm tracing, as they are recorded as coal miners on the census's.
Thanks also as I was unaware that Richard Armstrong (whom I think may have died young 1839) and Catherine (?) (d. 1876)? had married in Gretna.

Excuse my ignorance, but where are you finding the "Bewcastle Records"

John

[lynjon]

I am researching Margaret Elliott b. 13 Feb 1843  Married Archibald McKay 1864 Glasgow Scotland then migrated to Australia. Looking for family history on both families

http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY/2006-11/1164293369
Records that Thomas Elliott was a Mason
Mother Janet Armstrong

Children:

Thomas Elliott son age 8
William Elliott son age 6
John Elliott AGE 5
David Elliott son age 4
Robert Elliott (2) son age 1 month

In 1851 Census for Canonbie Parish, Dumfries, Scotland
Thomas Elliott age 47 MaSON LIVING WITH HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN IN sYKEHEAD, cANONBIE pARISH, dUMFRIES, sCOTLAND
Jane Elliott nee Armstrong age 50

Children:
Thomas Elliott sone age 17  Mason App
William Elliott son age 16
John Elliott sone age 14 Scholar
David Elliott son age 13 scholar
Robert Elliott (2) sone age 9
Margaret Elliott Daughter age 8 scholar

[Jeffrey]

Sorry don't know anything about your Elliot or Armstrongs but have you seen this website for your Elliots?

http://home.tiscali.nl/~cb002201/ellot_clan.htm

Judy

[Razzy]

So if I understand Johnbhouys research, there is William, James, then Richard
William is the oldest, then James, lastly Richard/ grandfather, frather, son.
James is born in 1688 in Bewcastle and married three times.
1st to Janet SCOTT in 1789
2nd to Catherine CARLISLE
3rd to Agnes HAUGHAN who was born in 1728.
Richards' mother would be whom?
The math does not fit but Agnes caught my eye.
Still looking for marriage of William GRAHAM and Agnes ARMSTRONG by 1758 having children christened in Canonbie.

[Jeffrey]

Hi,
I have just posted another query about another Robert Armstrong and wondered if any of you could help as some of you have Armstrongs from Canonbie.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=568976.new;topicseen#new

Thanks

Judy

[johnbhoy]

So if I understand Johnbhouys research, there is William, James, then Richard
William is the oldest, then James, lastly Richard/ grandfather, frather, son.
James is born in 1688 in Bewcastle and married three times.
1st to Janet SCOTT in 1789
2nd to Catherine CARLISLE
3rd to Agnes HAUGHAN who was born in 1728.
Richards' mother would be whom?
The math does not fit but Agnes caught my eye.
Still looking for marriage of William GRAHAM and Agnes ARMSTRONG by 1758 having children christened in Canonbie.

Razzy, this is how I understand it so far...

William Armstrong b 16..?

James Armstrong b. 1688 d. 4/11/1783 married Catherine Carlisle b. Oct 1706 Annandale d.?
Also married (18/06/1745) in Bewcastle to Agnes Houghan b.10/09/1726 Annan d. 21/08/1811

William Armstrong b. 1739 Annandale d. 12/10/1821 Bewcastle, married to Mary Henderson b.1747 d. 17/07/1774 Bewcastle

James Armstrong b.1767 Bewcastle d. 11/07/1847 married (09/04/1789) to Janet Scott b.1770 d. 17/08/1807

Richard Armstrong b.18/02/1800 d. 03/03/1839 married (20/06/1824) to Catherine Wilson b.1803 d. 21/10/1876

Hope this makes some sense

Best Regards
Johnbhoy

[Ozdais]

Hello Armstrong People!!

Researching on behalf of step mum - wondering if anyone has come across these two Armstrong brothers before 1911...

In 1911 William Thompson Armstrong and Thomas Armstrong are living in Brinsworth, Yorkshire, England with two sisters, Janet and Marion nee Nichol, with five children between them. Both brothers say they were born in Stockton in Durham. William dies in 1917, and Thomas in 1932, both in Brinsworth, Yorkshire, England. William’s birth year according to the 1911 would be about 1866, but according to the burial record would be about 1859, Thomas’s birth year according to the 1911 would be about 1869, but according to the burial record would be about 1863.

Thomas is my step mother’s grandfather – would really like to be able to find out who Thomas’s parents are for her if I can. The story is further complicated in that we cannot find a marriage for either of the brothers to either of the sisters - possible there are no marriages to be found - Janet was previously married to a Thomas Fletcher - and the parentage of some of the children would appear to be not as described in 1911 – but these are side issues really – it’s the parentage of the two Armstrong brothers that is the main challenge.

Thanks to anyone who has suggestions that might take us in the right direction!! Step mum’s ancestry dna results are in, and there are several Armstrong lines that suggest that the two chaps who say they were born in Durham are from a family that has roots in Canonbie – but there are so many Armstrongs in Canonbie that “bridging the gap” not looking an easy task!!