1861/1871 Census - Elizabeth Wright

[Rose Lea]

  I am trying to find Elizabeth who married George Riley Wright in 1959 in Cotmanhay, Derbyshire.  If anyone can help with information on her and her family I would be most grateful.  Thanks, Jane.

[suzard]

1861 Nottingham Rd Eastwood Notts
George R Wright 19 Coal Miner Greasley Notts
Elizabeth Wright 19 Shipley Derbys
RG9 2431 88 4

1871 coming up

Suz

[suzard]

1871 Cotmanhay Rd Ilkeston Derbys
George Wright 29 Miner Greasley Notts
Elizabeth 30 Shipley Derbys
Annie 9 Ilkeston Derbys
Henry Radford U Lodger 18 Coal Miner Wingfield Derbys
RG10/3482 21 34

this looks like Elizabeth in 1851
Shipley and Cotmanhay, Ilkeston Derbys
John Trueman 40 Coal Miner
Mary wife 36
Ann daugh 15 Glover
ELIZABETH daugh 12 Lace Worker
Eliza daugh 9
Eliza daugh 9
John son 6
Eliza Trueman Sister U 23 lace worker
HO107/21 26

will look in 1841

Suz

[suzard]

sorry 1851 I put Eliza down twice!!! and I should have put John Trueman b Greasley Notts -all others b Ilkeston Derbys

1841 Newthorpe Greasley Notts
John Trueman 25 Wheel wright
Mary 20
Eliza 19mths(?)
Maria 5 mths
Ann Dennis 15 FS
all b county
HO 107/857/7 35 4

1861
John Trueman 49 Coal Miner greasley Notts
Mary 45 Ilkeston Derbys
Ann 25 Ilkeston
John 16 Coal Miner Kimberley Notts
Mary Ann 9 Ilkeston
Mary 7 Ilkeston
Sarah Jane 6 Ilkeston
Joseph 4 Ilkeston
Eli Sisson son in law 20 Coal Miner Ilkeston
Eliza Sisson daugh M 18 Ilkeston

[Rose Lea]

:)Dear Suz,

Thanks so much for your help, this part of my family is very difficult to trace.  I found the marriage on the IGI and Elizabeth under her father's name, but as her mother's maiden name was Trueman, I wonder is she had her before getting married.  I found an Elizabeth Trueman born in June 1840 and  Elizabeth's parents got married in December of the same year - but I also found Elizabeth Hardy three times from 1839 to 1841 too!! Hence I will have to find someone who has parish records so that I can confirm the above.  Your information was of great help and even if the Trueman family you found is the wrong one they may still be connected being that they are Truemans!  It was very kind of you to go to so much trouble.  Jane

[suzard]

maybe a red herring but
1861
one of the Truman daughters (Eliza) is living with them and is married to Eli Sisson

on FreeBMd same page as Elizabeths marriage to George Riley Wright there is Henry Sisson - so thought may be a Sisson connection somewhere??

If you look on Heanor History site -there is a chat area with a family history section. There is quite a lot of Hardy information- and people with knowledge of the area (Shipley)

Suz

[suzard]

Dec 1840 marriage of Fanny Trueman Robert Hardy -are these the parents?
If so think this is Elizabeth
1851 Shipley
Robert Hardy 33 Coal Miner Shipley
Fanny 32 Lace Runner Ilkeston
ELIZABETH 10 Shipley
John 8 Shipley
Mary A 5 Shipley
Fanny 9mth Shipley
HO107/2126 124 20

also Hardy family next door and next but 1

Suz

[suzard]

and
1881 George R Wright 39 Coal Miner b Beauvale Greasley  is living at Red Hill Arnold notts
with wife Elizabeth 40 b Shipley (age transcribed as 49 -but image looks more like 40
daughter Annie 19 Shipley
and
nephew Frederick Hardy 9 -pob given as Hill Top Derbys -Hill Top is part of Greasley Notts!!
and next door is
William Hardy 26 Shipley with wife Mary and 5 children -the youngest one is Robert Hardy

Maybe?

[Rose Lea]

 Dear Suz,

The two Elizabeths really bothered me so I went on the IGI again and in the batch numbers I typed in Elizabeth Trueman and found her married in the same area as Elizabeth Hardy and they were both married within a few days of each other, only Elizabeth Trueman married Henry Sisson!! So I now know that the Elizabeth married to George Riley Wright is really mine.  Thanks for checking further and yes I have also been checking on the William Hardy you mention.  I found another William Hardy in Bath Street, Ilkeston and thought he was the right one, but today on the IGI I found him with a different father (if the information was correct as it wasn't from any records) so it certainly does look like the William you found is my William too!  It put me off with his birthplace written as Shipleywood instead of Shipley, but as there are so many mistakes even on the original documents, I have decided that with Elizabeth next door, he must be her brother.  I also have seen a Sisson mentioned and wondered if there is a connection, I will have to check on that too!  I'll definitely try the Heanor History site to see if I can glean anything off it.  Thanks so much, you have been a great help.  Jane