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What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« on: Wednesday 17 May 06 14:19 BST (UK) »
Hi.

On the 1881 census there are two members of a family (one male and one female) described as Assistant Leichner Engineer. They lived in Moss Side, Manchester at that time.

Can anyone, please, enleichner, sorry, enlighten me as to what this occupation entailed ?

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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 May 06 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

On Googling Leichner...it is a stage make up, began in 1878 by Ludwig Leichner.

 ???   ???   ???
Bryan.
Brownell...Sheffield.
Rodgers....Sheffield
Harper...Great Barford,Beds. 
Hull...Roxton,Beds
Wostenholme,Sheffield, 
Elliot, Baslow,Derbyshire
Duke, Birmingham.....Sheffield
Palmer, Nottingham....Holbeach
Hall,Nottingham

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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 May 06 11:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks Bryan for that information.

So the job title could possibly be an early name for a make up artist in a theatre (say) or it might just refer to someone who worked in a factory that produced the Leichner products ?

On the “Google” link it does not say on the English pages where Ludwig Leichner started his business in 1878 but it does indicate that the company registered its name in England in 1929.

There is ,however, a link to a German web page  http://www.leichner-kosmetik.de/index.htm?http://www.leichner-kosmetik.de/xaranshop_28.htm  and this appears to give a lot of information about him.

Sadly, neither I nor my computer can translate this page but we can pick out certain words like Berlin and Paris. We cannot find any reference, though, to Moss Side.

This may suggest that there was not a factory producing Leichner products in that area (or, indeed, anywhere in England).  In which case, the more likely job description seems to be related to using the products rather than making them.

Unless anyone can fault my logic, I will proceed for now on this assumption.

DS

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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 May 06 11:57 BST (UK) »
Hi DS,

Have you had a look at the actual image? Your 2 are the only persons in the whole of England and Wales to have this occupation, as you may have noticed. I couldn't tell what the image actually says, but I somehow think 'Leichner' is a transcriber's guess  ::)

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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 May 06 12:36 BST (UK) »
I'm with Tanja on this one. These are the children of an Independent Minister and the siblings are medical student, governess, analytical chemist. Some how make-up doesn't quite fit in there for me  :)
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 May 06 12:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gardener.

Having now looked at the original image I agree that it is very difficult to decipher the word that the transcriber guesses to be "Leichner".

Whatever it is, there do not appear to have been many of them around at the time of the census.

On the same lines, does the top entry really say "Independent Minister" ?

That is not what the transcriber guessed for that one (he/she went for "Interest of Money"). I thought my handwriting was bad ...

Thanks for getting involved

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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 May 06 13:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gardener.

On the same lines, does the top entry really say "Independent Minister" ?

That is not what the transcriber guessed for that one (he/she went for "Interest of Money"). I thought my handwriting was bad ...



Don't shoot the transcriber  :) I looked back at the '71 and '61 to see what the father did. I think that is what it said there.
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 May 06 13:46 BST (UK) »
Could you post a copy on here ??? Or give the names and dates of the people involved, so that more of us can help.
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Re: What was a Leichner Engineer ?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 May 06 13:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Patricia,

It's the Parkinson family
RG11/3940 114 81
Henry W Parkinson age 27 born Rochdale Lancashire and living at 203 Lloyd Street Moss Side

Tanja  :) 
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