ARMSTRONG MI's Newcastleton.

[dlporteous]

Hi Sheena,

I tried to PM you my thanks for your reply, but understand that I have to make three postings before the PM function will work, hence my very public thanks (I have now made two postings...).

I am particularly interested if anyone has any information about where Mary Porteous came from.

Thanks again and regards

[bougie]

Hi Derek
As Mary died in 1888 aged 81 she must have been born c1806/08.
The two nearest births are both in Johnstone Dumfriesshire to William Porteous and Sarah Graham in 1806 and to James Porteous and Katherine Halliday in 1807. I suspect that William and James could be brothers.
It is possible that Mary came from farther afield. These are the nearest in location. Suggest that you try the 1881 census as it will give her place of birth or better still look up her death on Scotlands people and you will get her parents on that.
Sheena

[bodger]

Thank You. Bodger

[JackieW]

Hi Bougie

I am very interested in your MI of Archibald ARMSTRONG/Isabel KYLE

I have an Archibald ARMSTRONG married to an Isabella KYLE c 1820 - Archibald died in Strachur, Argyll in 1879 aged 93 (c1786 Cumberland, England) Isabella died in 1883 aged 93 also (c 1790 Castleton, Roxburgh)

Interestingly Archibald's death certificate lists his parents as Archibald ARMSTRONG/Isabella KYLE - who appear to have married in Castleton on 24 Aug 1770

any info your MI can provide to shed light on the above would be much appreciated

many thanks,

Jackie

[bougie]

Hi Jackie
The MI reads as follows.
In memory of Archibald Armstrong, Solwaybank who died 24th May 1824 aged 83 years. Also his wife Isabella Kyle died 15th May 1833 aged 84 years.
There are also three sons buried next to them. As follows.
James Armstrong son of Archibald Armstrong, Solwaybank, died 8th July 1804 aged 24 yrs, also his brother John Armstrong [merchant, Langholm] died September 1814 aged 33 yrs.
Walter Armstrong, son of Archibald Armstrong, Solwaybank, died at Woodside on 12th April 1812 aged 19 yrs.
Hope this is of help to you
Sheena

[JackieW]

Hi Jackie
The MI reads as follows.
In memory of Archibald Armstrong, Solwaybank who died 24th May 1824 aged 83 years. Also his wife Isabella Kyle died 15th May 1833 aged 84 years.
There are also three sons buried next to them. As follows.
James Armstrong son of Archibald Armstrong, Solwaybank, died 8th July 1804 aged 24 yrs, also his brother John Armstrong [merchant, Langholm] died September 1814 aged 33 yrs.
Walter Armstrong, son of Archibald Armstrong, Solwaybank, died at Woodside on 12th April 1812 aged 19 yrs.
Hope this is of help to you
Sheena

Dear Sheena

very, very many thanks for the MI info - has helped a lot

all the best,

Jackie :-)

[Mosside]

Hi Bodger,
I wonder if you came across an MI for a William Armstrong (spouse Margaret Turnbul) of Mangertown.
They had a daughter Elizabeth on 7 Jan 1765.
It seems he might have been the last Armstrong tenant of Mangerton.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Mosside

[fornari]

I think I have information that you were asking for a long time ago regarding the parents and siblings of Agnes Murray. I am descended from her sister Jean Murray..one of the many who moved to Ontario in the 1830's. I have more info on Jean Murray and Charles Gibson's children if you would like it and I'd love to see what you have found out also.

MURRAY: Charles Murray born c1757 at Rowanburnhill in Dumfriesshire,
Scotland, died 6 Apr 1834, s/o Charles Murray and Mary Lithgow, married
1787 at Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Elizabeth Armstrong b. c1764 Castleton,
Roxburgshire, Scotland, died 13 Mar 1839, d/o John Armstrong and Helen
Nixon: came to NB about 1817: first settled at Apohaqui, then at Pearsonville
or English Settlement in Studholm Parish, Kings County:
Children born in Catleton Parish, Scotland:
1) Helen Murray born 17 Nov 1787 at Burnmouth, m. John Elliot and first
settled at Keswick, York County: had seven children: family moved to Ontario
in the 1830’s:
2) Mary Murray b. 26 Jul 1789 at Nicholforest, d. 18 Mar 1866 in Springfield
Parish, Kings County, NB, married 4 Oct 1825 Richard Smith born Jul 1790
at Whitehaven, England, d. 17/18 Dec 1852: they settled in English Settlement:
3) John Murray b. 6 Feb 1791 at Nicholforest, d. 26 May 1881, m. c1819 (1st)
Janet Nichol b. 1794, d. 12 May 1845: had three sons: m. (2nd) 11 May 1858
Margaret McColl born 1808, died 27 Feb 1885: settled at English Settlement:
4) Charles Murray Jr. born 21 Mar/Oct 1792 at Nicholforest, d. unmarried 28
May 1820:
5) Thomas Murray b. 18 Nov 1794 at Craigs, d. 9 Apr 1874, married (1st) 16
Jun 1819 Elizabeth Swan born c1788 at Roxburgshire, Scotland, died 16 May
1860 at English Settlement, m. (2nd) 3 Dec 1861 Barbara Thomas, widow of
John Thomas of Salmon Creek: settled at Keswick, York County:
6) Jean Murray b. 3 Oct 1796 at Craigs, m. Robert Gibson of Scotland: they
moved to Ontario in the 1830’s:
7) David Murray b. 29 Oct 1798 at Craigs, d. unmarried:
Agnes Murray b. 24 Dec 1800 at Harelane, married 14 Sep 1821 Thomas
Armstrong: settled at Queensbury, York County: family moved to Ontario in
the 1830’s:
9) Janet Murray b. 17 Aug 1802 at Bankhead, m. 18 Nov 1825 John Ferris :
settled at Keswick, NB: went to Ontario in 1830’s:
10) Elspeth Murray born 3 Aug 1804 at Carlside, Scotland, d. 17 Apr 1892,
m. 3 Dec 1824 John Little born 31 Oct 1800 at Dumfriesshire, Scotland, d. 16
Feb 1885: first settled at Richibucto, Kent Couty, later at Upper Millstream or
Berwick in Studholm Parish, Kings County:
11) Walter Murray b. 4 Nov 1806 at Greenholm, d. 24 May 1862, m. 24 Jul
1828 Elizabeth Pearson b. 5 Dec 1809 at Castle Carrick, Cumberland County,
England, d. 27 Apr 1893: they settled at Apohaqui, Kings County:
12) Adam Murray (twin) born 1 Aug 1808 at Greenholm, d. 10 Nov 1900 in
Chicago, IL, married Oct 1835 at Westminster, ON, Jean Beattie b. c1810 in
Scotland, d. 1892: they moved to Ontario in the 1830’s:
13) William Murray (twin) b. 1 Aug 1808 at Greenholm, d. in infancy.

Sources: MC1/Murray #3, 40 pages: see MC80/1 Grace Aiton’s The story of
Sussex and vicinity, page 57: see also MC80/223 The descendants of Charles
Murray, 70 pages: see also MC80/2354 Saint John Branch, NBGS: Arrivals
99: our first families in New Brunswick, pages 197-198: see also MC1581
Mary Ellen Christie fonds, Murray genealogy, 100 pages.

Hope this helps
Tammy
Clinton, Ontario

[fornari]

My great great great grand
father was Charles Murray, who married Mary Lithgow.Am I on the right track.
 , They had a son William Murray, born 1767.

I think I have information that you were asking for a long time ago regarding the parents and siblings of Agnes Murray. I am descended from her sister Jean Murray..one of the many who moved to Ontario in the 1830's. I have more info on Jean Murray and Charles Gibson's children if you would like it and I'd love to see what you have found out also.

MURRAY: Charles Murray born c1757 at Rowanburnhill in Dumfriesshire,
Scotland, died 6 Apr 1834, s/o Charles Murray and Mary Lithgow, married
1787 at Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Elizabeth Armstrong b. c1764 Castleton,
Roxburgshire, Scotland, died 13 Mar 1839, d/o John Armstrong and Helen
Nixon: came to NB about 1817: first settled at Apohaqui, then at Pearsonville
or English Settlement in Studholm Parish, Kings County:
Children born in Catleton Parish, Scotland:
1) Helen Murray born 17 Nov 1787 at Burnmouth, m. John Elliot and first
settled at Keswick, York County: had seven children: family moved to Ontario
in the 1830’s:
2) Mary Murray b. 26 Jul 1789 at Nicholforest, d. 18 Mar 1866 in Springfield
Parish, Kings County, NB, married 4 Oct 1825 Richard Smith born Jul 1790
at Whitehaven, England, d. 17/18 Dec 1852: they settled in English Settlement:
3) John Murray b. 6 Feb 1791 at Nicholforest, d. 26 May 1881, m. c1819 (1st)
Janet Nichol b. 1794, d. 12 May 1845: had three sons: m. (2nd) 11 May 1858
Margaret McColl born 1808, died 27 Feb 1885: settled at English Settlement:
4) Charles Murray Jr. born 21 Mar/Oct 1792 at Nicholforest, d. unmarried 28
May 1820:
5) Thomas Murray b. 18 Nov 1794 at Craigs, d. 9 Apr 1874, married (1st) 16
Jun 1819 Elizabeth Swan born c1788 at Roxburgshire, Scotland, died 16 May
1860 at English Settlement, m. (2nd) 3 Dec 1861 Barbara Thomas, widow of
John Thomas of Salmon Creek: settled at Keswick, York County:
6) Jean Murray b. 3 Oct 1796 at Craigs, m. Robert Gibson of Scotland: they
moved to Ontario in the 1830’s:
7) David Murray b. 29 Oct 1798 at Craigs, d. unmarried:
Agnes Murray b. 24 Dec 1800 at Harelane, married 14 Sep 1821 Thomas
Armstrong: settled at Queensbury, York County: family moved to Ontario in
the 1830’s:
9) Janet Murray b. 17 Aug 1802 at Bankhead, m. 18 Nov 1825 John Ferris :
settled at Keswick, NB: went to Ontario in 1830’s:
10) Elspeth Murray born 3 Aug 1804 at Carlside, Scotland, d. 17 Apr 1892,
m. 3 Dec 1824 John Little born 31 Oct 1800 at Dumfriesshire, Scotland, d. 16
Feb 1885: first settled at Richibucto, Kent Couty, later at Upper Millstream or
Berwick in Studholm Parish, Kings County:
11) Walter Murray b. 4 Nov 1806 at Greenholm, d. 24 May 1862, m. 24 Jul
1828 Elizabeth Pearson b. 5 Dec 1809 at Castle Carrick, Cumberland County,
England, d. 27 Apr 1893: they settled at Apohaqui, Kings County:
12) Adam Murray (twin) born 1 Aug 1808 at Greenholm, d. 10 Nov 1900 in
Chicago, IL, married Oct 1835 at Westminster, ON, Jean Beattie b. c1810 in
Scotland, d. 1892: they moved to Ontario in the 1830’s:
13) William Murray (twin) b. 1 Aug 1808 at Greenholm, d. in infancy.

Sources: MC1/Murray #3, 40 pages: see MC80/1 Grace Aiton’s The story of
Sussex and vicinity, page 57: see also MC80/223 The descendants of Charles
Murray, 70 pages: see also MC80/2354 Saint John Branch, NBGS: Arrivals
99: our first families in New Brunswick, pages 197-198: see also MC1581
Mary Ellen Christie fonds, Murray genealogy, 100 pages.

Hope this helps
Tammy
Clinton, Ontario