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Offline Bethan

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Barzillai Denton
« on: Saturday 13 May 06 19:09 BST (UK) »
Please has anyone got the 1871 census for Bedford, I am looking for Barzillai Denton born 1865, possibly living with his parents James and Martha, there is another brother called Theadore born 1865 and a sister called Amelia, I cannot find Barzillai in the 1881 census, I would be gratefull if someone could help me , Regards Bethan
Denton,Barfoot,Emery in Bedford.Howells of Pembroke,Davies of Rhymney,Jones of Carmarthen.

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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 May 06 19:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Bethan
1871 RG10/1498 Folio 11
James Denton Head 43  Ag Lab
Martha Wife 42               Lace Maker
Hugh son 16                  Ag Lab
Emmeline Dau 12            Lace Maker
Barzillai Son 6
Theodore Son 2
Cottage, Podington, Bedfordshire
Reg Dist: Wellingborough

all born Hinwick, Bedfordshire

Sue
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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 May 06 19:20 BST (UK) »
1881 census RG11/1573 Folio 23
James Denton Head 53            Shepherd
Martha Wife 52
Barzillia Son 16                        Ag Labourer
Theodor Son 12
Walter Son 8 b Colworth
Leonard Son 4 b Colworth
3 Woolstons Buildings, Wellingborough, Bedfordshire

all born Hinwick except Walter & Leonard

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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 May 06 09:14 BST (UK) »
Dear Sue, Thank you so much for all your help, Hugh the elder brother of Barzillai was my great grandfather,I am trying to find the French connection, family folklore says that we have French ancestors, but looking at the names of the children of James and Martha I am more inclined to believe that there is a Greek connection, or maybe just like the young parents of today James and Martha liked to give thier children unusual names, Thank you again for your kindness, Best Regards Bethan
Denton,Barfoot,Emery in Bedford.Howells of Pembroke,Davies of Rhymney,Jones of Carmarthen.


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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 May 06 09:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Bethan,

I assume that you are refering to Barzillai as the unusual name.  Barzillai is actually a Biblical name from the story of David.  I have both a Barzillai and a Barzillia (the female version) from around the same era in my tree.

It may indicate  that the family were non-conformists, probably Baptists.

Paul
NORTHANTS:  Webber, Dickins/Dickens, Farmer, Facer, York, Tarry
WARWICKSHIRE:  Marston, Deacon, Nixon
CAMBRIDGESHIRE:  Webber
LEICESTERSHIRE:  Webber, Upton, Oram, Meadows, Gregory, Screaton, Deacon, Hollis, Jalland, Hassell, Neal
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE:  Screaton
YORKSHIRE:  Oram
LANCASHIRE:  Jalland, Screaton
DUBLIN:  Thompson, McLoughlin, Harbourne, Richardson, Murphy
SUFFOLK: Screaton
LONDON: Screaton

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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 May 06 15:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks a lot Paul,that is very interesting and might be of help to me in my search,
Regards Bethan
Denton,Barfoot,Emery in Bedford.Howells of Pembroke,Davies of Rhymney,Jones of Carmarthen.

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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 May 06 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hi, seems to be more of a biblical connection than a French one.

Here is the 1861 census

James Denton, head, age 32, farm labourer born Hinwick
Martha, wife, age 32, lace maker born Hinwick
Caleb, son, age 11, school born Hinwick
Amelia, dau, age 9, school born Hinwick
Hugh, son, age 5, school born Hinwick
Emiline, dau, age 2 born Hinwick

RG9 952
folio 15 page 27
Puddington, Bedfordshire


and the 1851

Thos Denton, head,  age 55, ag lab born Bedfordshire Lavendon
Martha, wife, age 59, lace maker born Bedfordshire Harrold
Jas, son, age 23, ag lab born Bedfordshire Hinwick
Martha, dau in law, age 22, lace maker born Bedfordshire Hinwick
Caleb, grandson, age 1 born Bedfordshire Hinwick

HO 107 1743
folio 226 page 2
Puddington, Bedfordshire

Nicky

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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 May 06 15:57 BST (UK) »
I must admit, I got intrigued, and then got nosy, so ...
for all those who were wondering, but were afraid to ask:

Quote
1 Kings 2:7
But show kindness unto the sons of Barzillai the Gileadite, and let them be of those that eat at thy table:
for so they came to me when I fled because of Absalom thy brother.  (KJV)

Google gives 103.000 hits for barzillai, the first pages being mostly biblical references, whereas barzillia gives 604 hits, the first page being genealogy references for male children  ???

Bob
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Re: Barzillai Denton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 May 06 16:14 BST (UK) »
The Bettles don't seem to be anymore french either.

Marriages Jun 1849
Bettles  Martha    Wellingbro'  15 653  
Denton  James     Wellingbro  15 653  

1841 census HO107 8/13 Folio 6 page 5
Hinwick Puddington  Bedfordshire  
John Bettles 45 Shepherd crossed through and Ag lab inserted
Sarah Bettles 45
Willm Bettles 20  Bedfordshire
Mary Bettles 16  Bedfordshire  
John Bettles 14 Bedfordshire
Martha Bettles 12  Bedfordshire
Hannah Bettles 7  Bedfordshire
Sarah Bettles 3  Bedfordshire

1851 census HO107 1743 folio 227
Hinwick Puddington  Bedfordshire
John Bettle 55 Bozeat, Northamptonshire, Head  Married Ag Lab
Sarah Bettle 56  Irchester, Northamptonshire,  Wife Married
Sophia Bettle 22  Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Son's wife Married Lacemaker
Hannan Bettle 17  Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Daughter Lacemaker  
Sarah Bettle 13 Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Daughter Lacemaker

1841 census HO107 8/13 Folio 9 Page 9
Hinwick Puddington  Bedfordshire  
Thos Denton 45  Bedfordshire Ag lab
Martha Denton 45  Bedfordshire
Hannah Denton 19 Bedfordshire
Martha Denton 17 Bedfordshire
Jas Denton 14  Bedfordshire

Regards

Valda
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