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ANOTHER ONE LOST IN 1851 CENSUS
« on: Tuesday 09 May 06 04:06 BST (UK) »
I can't find my 3x Great Grandfather Samuel STEVENTON in the 1851 Liverpool Census & 1871 & 1891 census.
He was born 18 Sept 1846 at Parliament Place Liverpool, parents John & Dorothy Steventon. Mother's name BAYLIS.
I find him in the 1861 Census named STEVENSON  living at 112 Wood St where he is a Porter. I then loose him again till 1881 census when he is a 2nd Engine Driver on SS Elena docked at Toxteth Park docks. He drowned at Marseilles Harbour 2 June 1893.
I have looked for him with grandparents STEVENTON in Market Drayton & BAYLIS in Stourbridge with no luck. Any suggestions.
Thanks Sammiboy

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Re: ANOTHER ONE LOST IN 1851 CENSUS
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 09:23 BST (UK) »
This looks like the family in 1851

8 Parliament Place Liverpool

John Stevenson Head age 47 joiner grocer born Market Drayton
Dorothy wife age 38 born Stourbridge
William son age 20 clerk born Denbighshire
John son age 15 sailmaker born Shrewsbury
Ann daughter age 14 born Liverpool
Charles son age 2 born Liverpool
son (unnamed) age 2 days could this be Samuel born Liverpool

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Re: ANOTHER ONE LOST IN 1851 CENSUS
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Dinky
Have just found that 2 day old was George Henry another brother of Samuel. I have Samuels' birth certificate. I only discovered him when I found John & Dorothys' grave stone in St James Cemetery. John had a 1st wife Ann Maria whose children were the William, John & Ann you mention. Dorothy Baylis is johns' 2nd wife and Samuel their 1st child, then Charles, George Henry and a Willaim. The first William died just after the 1851 census. I know from 1881 that Samuel was married, but again have not found any record of it. Thanks for your reply.   Sammiboy

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Re: ANOTHER ONE LOST IN 1851 CENSUS
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 09:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Sammiboy,

Sorry to confuse even more, but are you sure the man you found in 1881 is your man? There is a Samuel Stevenson born 1859 in Liverpool who is still around at Toxteth Park in 1891 and 1901...

Tanja   :)

SORRY!! I can see both in 1881... on the index. Though I can't see Samuel Steventon on the actual image!!  ???
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Re: ANOTHER ONE LOST IN 1851 CENSUS
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 10:17 BST (UK) »
Could he (in 1851) be the "Saml Stephenson" aged 4, b "Lpool" who is a visitor in the household of Thos and Jane Eaton in Chester St Oswald, Cheshire? HO107/2172 folio 137 p16.

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Re: ANOTHER ONE LOST IN 1851 CENSUS
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 21:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Tanja
Thank you for the reply. The Samuel Stevenson you found was a son of a brother of John Steventon. Unfortunately enumerators often put Stevenson instead of Steventon. Our Steventons had very large families and  the annoying problem of naming children the same name in each family, and when a child died the next one had the same name, In one family I have come across 4 Johns over 9 years.
The 1881 census has my Samuel on the "S S Elena" at Toxteth Park docks.Not sure what the Folio numbers are as I got a copy off Family Search. Cd very early in the piece.
Thank you.  Sammiboy

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Re: ANOTHER ONE LOST IN 1851 CENSUS
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 22:06 BST (UK) »
Hello Anna
This one is definately not my one. When I first started this search I got this boys. birth certificate, as I did others only to find they were not my family.
I have a family contact in Uk who got me onto the right Samuel, but we could not find him in 1851 census. Some have suggested he was in a hospital or home but as a lot of these census entries only have initials in place of names it's nearly impossible to find them.
Thanks for your help
Cheers  Sammiboy
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