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Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« on: Sunday 07 May 06 18:27 BST (UK) »
Has any one got any further information regarding the Sutcliffe family who lived in Rock Ferry around 1890-1920. Jacob and Mary Ellen Sutcliffe (nee Smith) had three sons-Harold, Percy and Charles. Jacob was originally from Ireland and was a book keeper. He died in 1921. Percy (born 1893) was my grandfather, he married Dorothy Underwood (born 1901) of Hoole, Chester, in 1926 and they lived in Heygarth Road, Eastham. He worked for the Great Western Railway at Morpeth Dock, Birkenhead and died in 1961.

I am particularly interested in finding out more about Jacob, Mary Ellen and Harold.
Underwood-Chester/Barrow/Winwick/Tranmere/Mucklestone/LiverpoolTeasdale-Peckforton/Flintshire/Tottington.
Astle-Barrow/Chester.
Roberts-Ellesmere Port/ Tregeiriog/Llangollen area. Sutcliffe-Rock Ferry/Liverpool/Ireland.
Phillips-Haverfordwest/Fishguard. Brookhouse- Walmley(Sutton Coldfield)

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 October 21 07:35 BST (UK) »
Can't help sorry reddish,but would love info on old Chester Road area please. Anyone? I've lost the page . Any help please.

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 October 21 09:58 BST (UK) »
Lancs OPC site has this marriage

5 October 1889 Christ Church, Everton
Jacob Sutcliffe 41 Clerk, Widower
Mary Ellen Smith 26 Spinster
His father Joseph Sutcliffe Farmer
Her father Robert Smith Carter
Witnesses Richard Smith, Jane Smith
Smith Tiplady Boulton Branthwaite King Miller Woolfall Bretherton Archer and many more

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 October 21 11:17 BST (UK) »
Since you first posted in 2006 .....

Harold is the son of his second wife Margaret Charlotte Cuttle he was born 2 July 1886 (railway records)
GRO Index 1886 Birkenhead mothers maiden name Cuttle.

Margaret presumably died in childbirth or complications thereof. death recorded Birkenhead 1886 as Charlotte Margaret Sutcliffe age 29.

Jacob Sutcliff wd. married Margaret 24 December 1876 at Everton his father Joseph -farmer. Her father Frank - optician. Witness Kate Cuttle.


Notes Harold's birth answers the question why did Mary Ellen write originally on 1911 census 3 children,2 living,1 deceased, and it was written over as 4 children, 3 living 1 deceased.
Noted another son Francis born 1880 mmn Cuttle ,buried Everton 23 March 1881 age 1

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 October 21 11:28 BST (UK) »
Jacob and Mary Ellen had a daughter Lily born 1890 mothers maiden name Smith died 1891 age 0
both registered Birkenhead.

Lily was baptized All Saints Liverpool on 16 November 1890 born 25 September 1890, father Jacob, bookkeeper and Mary Ellen Sutcliffe. Abode 40 Jackson Street Birkenhead.

ADDED re Probate Jacob died 16 October 1920, bookkeeper of 29 Rockville Street
Ferry Birkenhead. To Mary Ellen -widow.

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 October 21 12:16 BST (UK) »
His first wife
Isabella Jane Story married 30 December 1868 registered Monaghan Ireland
Her death recorded 1872 age 23 Monaghan Ireland

They had a son Robert Joseph Sutcliffe possible birth 15 May 1871 Monaghan Ireland.

1891 census he is a boarder age 21 living in Birkenhead.

He enlists 8 October 1891 states born Scotstown Monaghan Ireland next of kin Jacob Sutcliffe of 18 Jackson Street Birkenhead.
This is the same street where the family was living in 1890 when Lily was baptized.
Robert had previously served and was declared unfit and discharged 14 October 1891.

Chelsea pension record 1890 has birth place Kilcooly Tipparary, but same contact Jacob Sutcliffe, bookkeeper of 40 Jackson Street Birkenhead. Each time he enlists he is a Grocer's assistant

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 October 21 16:46 BST (UK) »
Hi. Can anyone help please? Is there a way to find info on old rock ferry, old Chester Road. New to this. Thanks.

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 October 21 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi. Still struggling to find way to use this.

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Re: Sutcliffes of Rock Ferry, Wirral.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 October 21 13:13 BST (UK) »
Linda,
How far back are you looking for?
Maggsie
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