Author Topic: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??  (Read 10189 times)

Offline sunnylady2005

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 41
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01 October 06 12:57 BST (UK) »
It is St Michael and All Angels.    About ten years ago they had a major fire there so the interior is restored but I think it is a medaeval foundation although the Victorians spent a lot of time and money messing around and rebuilding so do not know if this is one of the messed around ones!     

This is the limited entry on the Diocesan web site
http://exeter.anglican.org/parishstaff.php?parid=73
so you could ask who the parish historian is by contacting one of the clergy.

And one cottage is reported to be a cottage associated with Charles Dickens' aunt
Knox (Greenlaw/Claydub/Edinburgh);
Syme or Sime (North Berwick/Montrose (Brechin);
McMurtrie (Dalmellington); Lamont/Limont(?);
Williams (Hampstead)/Glamorgan;
Lord (Hampstead/Lancashire);
Isaac (Wiltshire/Gower Peninsula) ;
Rowen or Rowan (Manchester);
Greenwood (Lancashire);
Also Forsythe; Kyle; Trotter; Hislop/Hoslop; Henderson; Chaplin; Parr; Mc Lean; Gourlay ; Harford

Offline slightlyfoxed

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 438
  • the Searcher
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 October 06 15:25 BST (UK) »
I had a wander round the churchyard and could see no Fort headstones. Lack of headstones doesnt indicate they arent there , just a lack of money maybe?
I took a photos of the churchyard if you're into such things.
Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall

Offline Noells

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 October 06 06:45 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Thanks again for the continuing help. And a special thanks Foxy for the new photos, they are great. I keep meaning to get a digital camera.

The Fort family were in Heavitree for the 1841 census,and as Francis died at about 18 months of age I can understand why no tombstones in Alphington.  Also they were Ag Labs so probably also no money ???

I checked out the Diocesan web site and have emailed the Reverend at Alphington. I'll let you all know his response if and when I get one.

Should have thought of Parloc originally, Trish, but Rootschatters sorted me out on that one also.

By the way Foxy, I forgot to ask if I can please use your photos in my Tree? I do not intend to publish for money, only for the family members. And would you like your real name acknowledged on them?

Noells

 

Anderson,Fry,Poad, Fort, -England, Australia
McCulloch - Scotland, Australia
O'Shea, Shea, Egan - Ireland, Australia
Sternberg - Germany

Offline slightlyfoxed

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 438
  • the Searcher
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 October 06 08:37 BST (UK) »
Use of photos. Yes of course, as long as theres no money involved!

Do you have any addresses for Heavitree? I could try and find them. The old churches there are easy  I can photograph them too if you want.
Heavitree was apparantly so called because it was an ancient place of execution/ hanging , up until 1531 , so several hundred years before your ancestors. a Cheering little thought

 An Excellent good guide to the whole of the Exeter area , with lots of history , is this boozers one

http://www.exeterbeerglass.com/fmatindex.htm
Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall


Offline Noells

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 06:32 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I have just had a very nice email back from the current Minister at St .Michael & All Angels church in Alphington.

He says that it is entirely likely that his Church is the one in which my ancestors were christened, but they do not do any research there and has referred me to the Devon Records Office.

I think possibly I may not have explained myself in that I did not want any lookups of christenings, only that I wanted to know if that building was the Church of England back in 1808.

I will now email the Devon records office and see what happens.

Foxy - thanks for your very kind offer to take photographs in Heavitree for me. I got the address for the Fort families from the 1841 Census on Ancestry.com, but have only written down Cottage Court and Goldsmith Place - not any street numbers. ::)  I will go to my local genealogical society this weekend and check it out again and get back to you.

Noells

Anderson,Fry,Poad, Fort, -England, Australia
McCulloch - Scotland, Australia
O'Shea, Shea, Egan - Ireland, Australia
Sternberg - Germany

Offline slightlyfoxed

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 438
  • the Searcher
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 09:16 BST (UK) »
the church is certainly Cof E now and I doubt very much if it would have changed denomination since I800's. Probably not since the Reformation in 1520's . Will  go and look in the West Country Studies Library.
I'll have a little rummage in the files and see if I  can make that a certainty

I will also see what I can find out about the places you mentioned in Heavitree.

Look forward to hearing from you
regards
Annie
Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall

Offline Noells

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 10:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

Trish has very kindly had a look at the 1841 census for me and has let me know that there are no street numbers in that census. 

So there will be no point in my taking you up on your generous offer to take a photo of their houses for me in Heavitree, as we don't know exactly which ones they were. However I do look forward to hearing what you come up with in the West Country Studies library. I hope this is not too far for you to travel without a car?

thanks again
Noelene





Anderson,Fry,Poad, Fort, -England, Australia
McCulloch - Scotland, Australia
O'Shea, Shea, Egan - Ireland, Australia
Sternberg - Germany

Offline slightlyfoxed

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 438
  • the Searcher
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 13:20 BST (UK) »
Never mind . You never know what old map of the area might turn up, if I can find one!!
I love a good hunt!  I know its called research  but to me its like being a detective , and its something Im quite good at! You never know what might be hidden away somewhere!
 I put the following notes together for you, its nothing much but the links might be useful.
 I will be going to the West Country Library tomorrow so Ill get back to you after that if I find anything useful!

 PS You dont have a time machine handy do you???
  regards
Annie


1740- 1840 was the Georgian period followed by Regency Period  which including the Industrial Revolution, War with France,the Battle of Trafalgar and Wellingtons Victory at Battle of Waterloo. It was a time of upheaval  and great change with machinery replacing men which resulted great hardships with high prices and low wages partcularly in the countryside. This resulted in considerable migration to America, Canada, Australia and in 1820 South Africa.
Some websites that might assist you.

http://www.devon.gov.uk/localstudies

http://www.exetermemories.co.uk/EM/Streets_and_areas.html

http://www.exeterhistorysociety.co.uk/Events.html

http://www.exeter.gov.uk/timetrail/11_lategeorgian/growth.asp

GENuki
Parish Registers going back to 1556 are held in the Devon Record Office - for details see Parish Registers in the Devon Record Office.
Transcripts of the Parish Registers going back to 1555 are held in a special collection in the Westcountry Studies Library - for details see Parish Registers in the Devon & Cornwall Record Society's Collection.

http://www.devon.gov.uk/etched?url=etched/ixbin/hixclient.exe&_IXP_=1&_IXR=100223#X


ALPHINGTON, [From White's Devonshire Directory (1850)]
 a neat and pleasant village on the western side of the river Exe, 1½ mile S. of Exeter, has in its parish 1286 inhabitants, and about 2700 acres of fertile land, traversed by the South Devon Railway and Exeter Ship canal. It has cattle fairs on the first Wednesday after the 20th of June, and on the Wednesday after Michaelmasday.

It was one of the principal quarters of Sir Thos. Fairfax's army, when he was blockading Exeter, in 1646. The Earl of Devon owns most of the soil, and is lord of the manor of Alphington, which was obtained by his family in the reign of Richard II., in exchange, from the Seagraves.
Matford, formerly a seat of the Smith and other families, belongs to Sir L.V. Palk, and several smaller proprietors have estates and neat houses here.
On July 2nd, 1760, by the sudden inundation of the rivulet which runs through the village to the Exe, upwards of 20 houses are said to have been thrown down, and the damage was computed at upwards of £1000.

The Church, (St. Michael,) is a large antique fabric, with a tower and eight bells."
The Church of St Michaels and All Angels is the centre-piece of Alphington Village and as such has always figured highly in the history of the village. The first mention of the dedication to St Michael can be traced back 1200 years. The present building dates from around 1480.
 
=======================================

HEAVITREE
 
"HEAVITREE PARISH, On the eastern side of Exeter, and partly within the parliamentary boundary of the city, contains 3469A. of land, and 3048 inhabitants.
It comprises the Artillery Barracks, Regent Park, Baring Crescent, Polesloe, Richmond Grove, Mont le Grand, Bicton Place, and other eastern suburbs of the city, and the small villages of EAST and SOUTH WONFORD, and WHIPTON, at the distance of from one to two miles.
The village of Heavitree, one mile E. of Exeter, has many neat houses, and is said to have derived its name from having been formerly the place of execution for the city. The manor of Wonford, which anciently gave name to this parish, and still gives name to the hundred, was part of the demesne of the crown in the reign of Edward the Confessor. . . .
Sir Thomas Baring is now lord of this manor, but a great part of the parish belongs to other proprietors. Lord Poltimore is lord of the manor of Wippen or Whipton, which has been held for a long period by his family - the Bampfyldes.
St. Loyes is the pleasant seat and property of Pitman Jones, Esq., and near it is the decayed chapel of St. Eliguis, or St. Loyes, which has long been used as a stable. South Wonford House belongs to Francis Spicer, Esq., and Ringwell Manor to Genl. Sir D. Ximenes. . . .
The PARISH CHURCH, dedicated to St. Michael, was rebuilt in 1845-'6, at the cost of about £3000, raised by subscription, and a grant of £500 from the Church Building Society. It was consecrated Aug. 1st, 1846, and is a neat structure of mixed architecture, with a tower of four bells. . . . The Rev. A. Atherley, M.A., is the incumbent, and has a good residence, and six acres of glebe.



Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall

Offline spark

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 528
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Is Alphington close to Heavitree??
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 26 December 06 21:11 GMT (UK) »
St Michaels & All Angels was built in 1842, originally as a Roman Catholic Church.  After the reformation, post Henry VIII creating the anglican church, became an Anglican church (CofE)

Merry Christmas

Spark
Commons -  Whitwick/USA/Galway
Concannon - Whitwick
Costello - Ireland
Wardle - Whitwick/Packington
Clarke - Whitwick
Lockwood - Barrow upon Soar
Bull - Whitwick/little Staughton
Moult - Coelorton
Glover - Wymeswold
Vellacott - Exmoor
Thorne - Exmoor