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George Glover, Stilton c 1790
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 May 06 16:11 BST (UK) »
Well..embarassed now to find that I'm actually looking for George Glover, father of Henry born Stilton 1816 (as proved by marriage certificate of Henry - Mark and Lydia weren't his parents after all). Could anyone please help me? IGI not helpful - I'ld appreciate a wife for George, and anything else available from kind souls..

Thanks again

Amanda

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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 May 06 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda,

I've looked up Stilton baptisms and there is a Henry Glover son of Mark and Mary MERRIL, barber  24 March 1816.  I guess there must be 2 Henrys from Stilton, Ruth

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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 May 06 16:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda,

I've looked in the Huntingdonshire marriage index for 1754-1837 and there isn't a marriage for a Mark or a George Glover for the right time period.  In fact there are no George Glovers down at all, Ruth

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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 May 06 17:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks, both of you - curiouser and curiouser! On henry's wedding certificate (he married in Wisbech) his father is given as  George Glover, hairdresser of Stilton..

Thanks, anyone else able to shed any light (and god knows, it's needed here !)

Amanda


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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 May 06 18:37 BST (UK) »
So Mark Glover, barber had a son in Stilton in 1816,  and another barber, sorry hairdresser,  in Stilton also a Glover, named George, also had a son Henry in 1816. George seems a mystery person. Seems to be a lot of coincidences as well.

I'm not sure from Ruth's message whether or not Henry was illegitimate, or whether his mother was Mary Glover nee Merril.

I wonder if there's an error, deliberate or otherwise, in the marriage entry. The problem is I don't think you can prove it. But if he was illegitimate and was brought up by his mother it's possible he wasn't too clear about his father's christian name. But I don't necessarily think that the marriage cert "proves" his father was George

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David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #14 on: Friday 19 May 06 19:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda and David,

Re the baptism entry for Henry Glover.  As you say it's not clear as to whether Henry was illigitimate or not.  It doesn't state on the microfiche that he is illigitimate but then it is odd to state the mothers maiden name.  Plus there is also the fact that there are no other births around the same period.  I guess if his parents weren't married at the time it was easier to pop across to another country and baptise the child there.  It could be that the vicar of the church was a bit more understanding about these matters than the norm and didn't label the children as bastards as some were quick to do.  Ruth

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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 May 06 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda and David,

I've looked further back in the baptisms for Stilton and I found:
2 Nov 1806  Louisa Glover baseborn daug of Mark and Mary MERRYL, publickly
in 1801 5 Nov there is William Glover son of Mark and Lydia, privately
1800 22nd July,  William Glover son of Mark and Lydia, privately.

in 1839 Oct 1  Mark Glover was buried, age 81
in 1803 Oct 17  Lydia Glover was buried, age 39, otp
in 1800 Oct 18, William Glover buried, inf otp

Ruth

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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #16 on: Friday 19 May 06 19:45 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary Merrill buried on 11 March 1856, age 73, so it doesn't look like she ever married.  Ruth

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Re: Mark Glover and Lydia Eaton, Stilton
« Reply #17 on: Friday 19 May 06 20:10 BST (UK) »
I have a gut feeling that Mark, barber = George, hairdresser!

But it will probably take a lot of negative research and even then it won't prove it conclusively:
- any burials/marriages of another Henry who could have been the son of Mark
- any other census entries for a Henry
- any burials/census entries for George

To start the ball rolling there are no burials of a Henry in Hunts pre 1837. (there is a burial of Henry age 73 at Wisbech on 23 Dec 1888). Nor is there a burial of a George in Hunts or Cambs pre 1837


Mary Merril lived in Stilton in 1851 where she was described as unmarried, so I think you are right about her Ruth

Regards

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell