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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Does it def say sister?
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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello, cannot compete with you two,obviously you have been doing the research much longer than me,what where the crimes of the three that were deported,i have been looking into Robert and his son Arthur Thomas my gr grandad simply besause of the interesting story of his death in Egypt, do you know about any of that.

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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 16:12 GMT (UK) »
No nothing I am afraid.  I get the feeling that they were an interesting family though!
I have been working on them since the 70's!  Still cannot work out where the marriage of Thomas and Elizabeth was - if they married of course.
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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 13:39 GMT (UK) »
From Lincolnshire County Counsil, Lincolnshire Convicts Transported
Smith, John of Winterton
Occupation, Labourer Age 22
Crime, breaking into the granary of Robert Everatt farmer of Saxby and stealing 4 bacon hams and 2 hempen sacks
Place of crime, Saxby
Court, Lindsey Quarter Sesions, Trial date 17/07/1818
Sentence, 7 years,  Transportation date 1819,  Ship, Baring,  Destination NSW
Sources used, Trial documents
Other remarks, Pleaded guilty, his brother Thomas Smith 20 pleaded not guilty to the crime but received the same sentence. Their brother Joseph Smith of Barton on Humber aged 18 gave evidence against them, and the trial evidence also mentioned a sister Neale who lived at Barton. The brothers sold the hams in Hull.


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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that.
No Neale though!
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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that information, was the third brother that gave evidence against them also transported and if so what was his roll in the theft if any?

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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 16:45 GMT (UK) »
No idea but he was deported a few years later for stealing from a shop in Barton!  I have had details from his descendant in Australia.
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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 30 September 14 14:47 BST (UK) »
Ref Smiths of Winterton

I think I have found the sister named Neale at the trial.
Ann Smith m Edward Neale at Winterton 15th Dec 1812.
This seems to be a surname not a christian name.  I have not found her baptism yet which was circa 1790. 
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Re: Smith marriage
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 16 October 14 21:17 BST (UK) »
Have found it!
Thomas Smith 22 of Winterton
m by licence
Elizabeth Carviss 21 of Hull
12 Dec 1786 - licence granted.

It only took me 30 years to trace this!!

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