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John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« on: Monday 24 April 06 13:04 BST (UK) »
I'm look for a John Seago with a circus link (taken from a birth certificate for his daughter Amelia Ann Seago who was born in Norwich Sept 1891), he doesn't appear to show on the 1891 census, maybe he was on tour in another country during the time of the census.

I've checked www.thegalloper.com website and I cannot trace him on this site or any Seago's or Sago's connected with the circus in the late 19th century.

Anyone got any ideas? ???

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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 April 06 23:39 BST (UK) »
Hi gjb,
This might be Amelia  on 1901 census with her aunt. (I assume you don't have this.)
RG13/1835
Folio: 7 
Page: 5
2 Greenland Fisheries Yard,(or similar) Oak Street, Norwich
Henry W Randell head 29 yrs  general labourer  Felthorpe Norfolk
Maria Randell  wife 27 yrs  Poplar London
George Randell son 5 yrs  Norwich
Lily Randell  daur 4 yrs Norwich
Ellen Randell   daur 3 yrs Norwich
Ethel Sego  niece 7 yrs Norwich
Amelia Sego  niece 10 yrs

Free BMD has a marriage 1896 1st quarter- Maria Seago and Henry William A Randell

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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 April 06 00:04 BST (UK) »
Yes they are the ones I think our postings may have crossed while you were typing this one

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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 April 06 00:05 BST (UK) »
At the moment, Maria is possibly a servant in 1891 but that says born Norfolk -age is right though and is then at home in 1881- but no brother John!
There is a John in 1881 born Bermondsey with a mother Maria, born Suffolk!! Frustrating! He's a carman in 1891 - still in London - and in 1901.

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I hadn't posted this when we were crossing but have posted it now and realise it might be irrelevant- it's getting late!
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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 April 06 00:19 BST (UK) »
This John is elusive  ???

he could well have been born in Ireland. I dont know!

I knew about the Randells but I didnt have full details of their address in 1901 and there household so thats been a help.

Maria Randell nee seago was at Bull Close- norwich in 1881 census.

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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 April 06 00:33 BST (UK) »
This seems to be Ann in 1891
RG12/1518
Folio: 48 
Page: 23 
5 Dolphin Yard, Norwich
Ann Seago Head widow 42 yrs  charwoman  b Ireland
Ellen Seago daur 14 yrs  errand girl b London
Amelia Barnes Lodger 24 yrs married  wool sorter b London
George A Barnes son 13 months b Norwich
so George snr seems to be dead by 1891.


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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 April 06 09:06 BST (UK) »
Who is John's wife, and where is she in 1891? 

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 April 06 12:35 BST (UK) »
Ann Sago and the family are in London in 1871, still no John:

RG 10/580  Folio 64 page 42
Poplar All Saints
29 Little James Street
George Sago, 38, labourer, b. Yarmouth Norfolk
Ann, wife, 23, b. Ireland Cork
Amelia, 6, b. Poplar Middlesex
Augustus, 3, b. Poplar Middlesex

Given George's age, is it possible John was from a first marriage of George? (or illegitimate?), and that's why he's being difficult to find?
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Re: John Seago or Sago - circus groom // Ann Ardmile
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 April 06 18:59 BST (UK) »
to clerify her are details of Amelia Ann birth certificate:-

1. 24/09/1891, 3 Dolphin Yard, St Martin at Oak, Norwich
2. Amelia Ann
3. Girl
4. John Seago
5. Ann Seago formerly **Ardmile** **this is best guess**
6. Groom (circus)
7. A. Seago (mother) 3 Dolphin Yard St Martin at Oak, Nch
8. 10/11/1891

Please note. Ann Seago was previous Ann Hodnett who married George Sago at Mary and Joseph Catholic Church in Poplar Middx in 1864 and should not be confused with Ann Ardmile who married John Seago.

Ann Seago who looks like John Stepmother was living at
5 Dolphin Yard St Martin at Oak, Norwich.