Four Ashes Inn

[Gardener]

The Four Ashes Inn, 36 Stafford Street is the first household in Enumeration District 9 and here is what the notes say at the beginning of that enumeration district:
"Part of the township of Wolverhampton namely Stafford Street west side from Charles Street to Red Lane, Cannock Road both sides to the boundaries of the township; that is on the North side to the stream, and on the South side from, but not including the "Junction Inn" to the Grand Junction Railway; also Chicken Lane and Carp Street All courts, Alleys and entries included, except entry from Stafford Street to Middle Row (called B??ked Lane"

So I think that Charles Street was a side street off Stafford Street and the Four Ashes stood on the corner. The household at 51 Stafford Street (Brittania Inn) is the last on Stafford Street, next comes Lower Stafford Street.

If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
and search for co-ordinate 391456,299411

That will get you a map centred on the "dogleg" where Stafford Street and Lower Stafford Street meet. Your pub must have been somewhere south of the dogleg, on the west side of the street, about 8 buildings down. Hope this is a help.

[Jacquie]

Thank you so much Gardener.

Regards Jacquie.

[retrospectory]

Hi Jackie,

Not sure if you're accessing this site/post, but I'm researching the Matthews family mentioned in an earlier reply and have come across the following blog which, in a post entitled 'The ghost of St. Mary's lingers on' (!!) includes a map showing Charles Street where the Four Ashes pub was located and a photo of the pub in the 1950s.

http://lostwolverhampton.blogspot.com/

Apparently it is was just next to what is now the art building of the University of Wolverhampton on the corner of Stafford Street and St. Peter's Ring Road, opposite a garage (you can see in the photo) which is now 'Kwik Fit'.

Hope this helps.  Take care...Helen

PS. This means the death certificate would have been correct. 

[linell]

I think it could be 'The Four Ashes' which is on the Stafford Road leading into Wolverhampton, it is on an ancient crossroads, Brewood and Coven.  Here is a link:-

http://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/engine/resource/default.asp?txtKeywords=four+ashes&lstContext=&lstResourceType=&lstExhibitionType=&chkPurchaseVisible=&rbAlphabeticalRecent=1&txtDateFrom=&txtDateTo=&originator=%2Fengine%2Fsearch%2Fdefault%5Fhndlr%2Easp&page=&records=&direction=&pointer=5158&text=0&resource=10347

[retrospectory]

No, its definitely the one in the town centre - the other pub is on Stafford Road not Stafford Street and the Coven one is actually on Station Drive.  Confusing I know with two parcels of land and the two pubs on them with the same name, but at the time the Coven one would not have been really seen as part of Wolverhampton. 

Sadly, as with so many important landmarks within Wolverhampton, all were wiped out when the dreaded ringroad (which makes my life hell on a daily basis!) was constructed in the 1960s and, with respect to that particular area, the uni's art block was built in the 1970s, including my great-grandfather's home near the Molineux.

I was really pleased to find to Billy Howe's blog - a real gem for us local historians!

Best regards...Helen

[Jacquie]

Thank you both very much for your help.  It was really nice looking at the link site.  The death certificate definatley said Four Ashes Inn Stafford Street Wolverhampton.

Regards Jacquie.

[jayw]

hi i know the exact place your after here is the website address it used to be an old pub but was knocked down some time ago http://lostwolverhampton.co.uk/the-ghost-of-saint-marys-lingers-on/

[linell]

That's fantastic thanks Jayw, that link is really interesting, has opened my eyes to a whole new chapter of local history, cheers.

[glen11]

Hi,try the Lost Wolverhampton web-site and post on the forum.It is run by Billy Howe,a local historian.Glen