Deaths - George Ettershank, Christiana Eaglestone

[GeorgeJen]

I can't find two deaths and I hope someone can help:
1. George Ettershank (my great grandfather) b. 18/3/1822 Kincardine O'Neil. Married Catherine Higgins 13/11/1848 at Barony. Census 1851, lived at 52 Hope Street, Barony, Glasgow. He died between 1854 and 1856(his widow remarried then).

2. Christiana Eaglestone, b 24/9/1826 in Northamptonshire, married John Ettershank 1850, went to Australia 1852, took sick and returned in 1860, died in Scotland, prob Lanarckshire as John's father had a farm at Priesthill, nr Glasgow.

Can anyone help, please?
George.

[runner]

Hello George

I presume you have been looking on scotlandspeople for these deaths?

What spelling variations have you tried for each name?  When deaths are registered the Registrar accepts the information he or she is given and the spelling may bear little resemblance to the actual name if the person can't spell or has a broad accent. This means some entries have been transcribed differently from the names you think you are seeking!!!

Christiana would probably not be referred to by that name while she was alive and could be recorded as;
Christine
Christian
Christy
Chirsty
Kristy
Kristie
Christina
Kirsty
Kirstie
Or possibly none of these if the family used a different preferred name for her. Even direct relatives have been known to give incorrect names when reporting a death.
Apply the same principle to the surnames and the list is endless.
Look at the guidance given in the
"Optimise Scotlandspeople searches"here.  'Wildcards' are very useful but you need to work out beforehand the effective way of applying them.
George may have been inconsiderate and died before 1855 which would mean that his death would not be recorded in the Statutory register in Scotland but his death may have been commemorated by a Monumental Inscription at his grave.
See
Glasgow, Southern Necropolis
http://www.southernnec.20m.com/page23.html

Lanarkshire Burials information
http://www.ancestralscotland.com/counties/lanarkshire.html?section=burials
These might help

Russell

[GeorgeJen]

Thank you, Russell. These Ettershank males were not long lived - several generations back then they seemed to pop off at 30 -50! Fortunately for me later generations are longlived. I could not even track him down in the 185 census until some kind soul found him under Hershank - the double t looks like an H in the original.

I just found out about a memorial inscription that gives Christiana's death as 13 Jan 1862; it is in Cambuslang, and includes a number of members of the family, including one who died in Australia, so it does not really define where she died. But a definite step forward.

Thanks for your help, and best regards, George.

[MonicaL]

Hi George

From Scotlands People, I can see Christiana Ettershank's death in 1862. She died in Abbey, Renfrew on 13 Jan (the date you have).  Other names are Hawthorn (mother) and Cawthorne Eaglestone (father).

As for George, the closest I can see is a George Etherington, but that's 1857 in Dumfries, nothing else close.

Regards.

Monica

[runner]

Hi George
Monica's info ties in nicely with the Priesthill data.  Priesthill is  now part of Glasgow but back then was under Abbey, Paisley as part of the landward parishes.

Russell

[GeorgeJen]

Thank you, Monica and Russell. That would seem to tie up Christiana fairly well. I guess that GGF George Ettershank will just remain a mystery. But then maybe something will turn up!
Cheers and thanks again, George.

[GeorgeJen]

Hi, Monica,
Thinking further about Christina, I take it that you have viewed the original image. The father is listed there as Cawthorne Eaglestone and the mother as ? Hawthorn (no first name?)? Is there any indication of where whe was born? I can't find a birth that corresponds to that set of parents in England or Scotland. Any ideas?
Thanks and regards,
George.

[MonicaL]

Hi George

Christina's mother is shown as Elizabeth Mary Hawthorn. I'll PM you with more details. There are no birth details on death certs. unfortunately. However, I think Ambly's find of a christening record in 1826 in Northampton looks good and maybe that's the area for you to research for a birth record (if available) for Christiana. You might try a post on the Northampton board?

I think you've said that you have access to Ancestry for the UK. I would also go down that route to find her family group for additional info. I tried quickly the 1841 FreeCen for a Joseph Eaglestone (didn't try any variants of which there are many) any age. I got only one entry (it's work in progress). Interestingling, I think he might be a brother to Christina living with other family:

EAGLESTONE, Joseph, age 15, Exciseman's Son (Crossed Out),Outside Census County (1841), Census Place Burton Dassett-Warwickshire/Priors Marston   

The reason this caught my eye (other than it's the only one!) is the 'exciseman's son', Joseph Snr was an Inland Revenue Officer. The 1841 census has just become available on line on Ancestry yesterday I understand. Hopefully you will find the rest of the family that year.    

Regards.

Monica