Chesham help - Looking for HARDINGS!

[Lisa Harding]

Hi there,
Can anyone help me find out any more information on the following Harding's in my tree in Chesham?
All the information i have is here and i am looking for any further info such as missing dates and even siblings etc. Anything you guys know would be of great assistance

GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GRANDPARENTS:
John Harding born. abt. 1754 Chesham   
Buried on 10th April 1867 in Chesham (this is where I wondered if he might be in Chesham cemetary)

married to
Hannah Wilton born. abt. 1754 St Albans

GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GRANDPARENTS:
James Harding born. abt. 1785 Chesham   

married to   
Mary Ann Burch born. abt 1784

GREAT, GREAT, GRANDPARENTS:
William Harding  born abt. 1827  St Albans
Married to
Susan North  born abt. 1831 in St Albans

Many thanks
lisa

[Koromo]

Hi

This should give you one sibling for William b. 1827

1851  HO107/1713/239/17
Spenser Street, St Albans St Peter, Hertfordshire
James Harding, head, 66, basket maker, b. Chesham
Mary Ann Harding, wife, 67, b. St Albans, Herts
Susanna Birch, wifes sister, unmar, 55, b. St Albans, Herts, deaf & dumb
(next page)
Vincent Maunder, grandson, 9, scholar, b. St Peters, Herts

FreeBMD 1838 Sep qtr, St Albans, Hertfordshire
Vincent Maunder
Maria Harding

1851  HO107/1713/493/57
Pound Field, St Michael, St Albans, Hertfordshire
Vincent Maunder, head, 37, gardner, b. Thame, Oxfordshire
Maria Maunder, wife, 38, b. St Albans, Herts
Elizabeth Maunder, dau, unmar, 18, hat maker, b. Thame, Oxon
James Maunder, son, 7, scholar, b. St Peters, Herts
Joseph Maunder, son, 5, scholar, b. St Peters, Herts
Eliza Maunder, dau, 2, b. St Michaels, Herts
Sarah Maunder, dau, 2 mths, b. St Michaels, Herts

Cheers
Koromo

[Lisa Harding]

Thanks for the information - that is great!

Is there anyway that anyone can also help me find a marriage at all? So far my searching has drawn a blank.

i am looking for a marriage between:

James William Harding and Harriet Mary Fowler (formerly Sharp)
The wedding would have taken place in Islington or there abouts sometime during or after (but not before) 1901.

If anyone can help with this i would be very grateful!

Thanks again
lisa

[Koromo]

Hi Lisa

Have you checked the Ancestry BMD images?

Choose the Marriages from the "Compete Images". If you find a James Harding, make a note of the registration district and the volume and page number.  Then search for a Harriet Fowler in the same quarter. If you find her with the same volume/page numbers, you've won!  After about 1912 it gets easier because each entry includes the spouse's name.

Good luck!

K.

[Lisa Harding]

Ho Koromo

I have tried this but so far have had no luck.
I am not really sure if they did ever marry but a relative seems to think that they did and said that they saw a marriage certificate!

I am wondering if the name has been spelled funny as Harriet is one name that always seems to get messed up.

Ill keep trying and maybe one day something will turn up. Until then i am going to have diffuclty checking that the James William Harding is defintely the right one!

Lisa

[Valda]

There is no death registration for a John Harding in 1867 in Chesham (Amersham registration district). The dates you give for him would make him 113 on his death.

Other than some marriages which were extracted from Chesham parish registers and published and then placed from that source on the IGI, the IGI has no coverage of Chesham parish registers which were held at the church and not released to the record office. Consequently you had to visit the church itself until recently (the registers have now been photocopied and the photocopies handed to the record office) to see details. Therefore most of what is on the IGI is pretty much guesswork for Chesham. So if the IGI entry doesn't say it is extracted from the records themselves, but it is submitted by a church member, you have to treat it with extreme caution. e.g.

John Harding 
Birth:  1754   Chesham, Buckingham
Spouse:  Hannah Wilton 
Marriage:  28 JAN 1779   
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church

The source for this record being

Endowments for the dead, 1956-1970; baptisms for the dead, 1956-1970  Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Los Angeles Temple


1851 census HO107 1713 folio 248
Adelaide Street St Albans St Peter  Hertfordshire   
William Harding 24 St Albans, Hertfordshire, Head  Married Basket maker
Susan Harding 21  Warwickshire, Wife  Married

1861 census RG9 830 folio 3
Kent's Yard St Alban  Hertfordshire   
Susan Harding 30  St Albans, Hertfordshire, Head  Married Brazilian Hat maker
William Harding 5  St Albans, Hertfordshire, Son 
Charles Harding 1 St Albans, Hertfordshire, Son

I can't see William on the 1861 census.

1891 census RG12 149 folio 27
41 Cornwallis Road Islington  London 
James W Harding 35 St Albans Head  Married Cooper
Margaret Harding 34 ST George in the East, London, Wife Married
James W Harding 10 Islington, London,  Son 

1871 census RG10 1332 folio 44
Grammar School Wood Street Chipping Barnet  Middlesex 
James W Harding 15  St Albans, Hertfordshire, Pupil 

Regards

Valda

[behindthefrogs]

Two thoughts

If you use freeebmd when you click on the reference number the list of people on the same page is shown.  Freemd is about 90% transcribed prior to 1910 now.

Valda has just beaten me on my second comment about John being 113

David

[tikki_nik2]

Hi,

I have a Mary Ann Chapman in my tree b.Ellesborough 1865. She married William Henry Harding in 1888, he was b.1865 Aston Clinton and died in 1898. they had sons William and Frederick. I believe William Henry Harding was son of William b.abt.1844 and Mary Ann. Is this any link to you?

Kind Regards

Nikki

[Valda]

1871 census RG10 1408 folio 27
Bacombe Terrace Wendover  Buckinghamshire   
William Harding 27 York Town, Surrey, Head Married Gas Fitter & Painter
Mary Ann Harding 24  Buckland, Buckinghamshire,  Wife Married
William Harry Harding 6  Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, Son 
John Harding 3  Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire,  Son 
Ann Green 18  Longwick, Buckinghamshire,  Lodger  Unmarried Straw Plaiter

Possible marriage

Marriages Dec 1864
Harding  William     Aylesbury  3a 727   

GREEN  Mary Anne    Aylesbury  3a 727   
or
Thorne  Hannah     Aylesbury  3a 727


Regards

Valda