DEPARTURE from England to NZ of Charles Robert Matthews

[ken72]

Hi Lynette

Thanks for the prompt reply. This is bit long winded I'm afraid but here goes.
I have traced my Russell line back abt 1774 in Airdire to a James Russell who married Maragret Rankin in 1799, Airdire. They had a son William b 1799, William is a very regular name in our family right through to my uncle. It is quite likely that our families would have known each other even if they were not related as my Grandfather John Russell was born at 11 Shanks Street in 1894. Shanks Street is a two streets away from Mack Street, so any children at that time would have been growing up and attending the same schools.

My Moffatt connection comes from Richard Moffatt b, 31.08.1834 New Monkland. Married Janet Stevenson Moffat 26.07.1854 Airdrie. Then came my Gt Grandmother on my Grandmothers side, Stevenson Muir Moffatt b, 22.04.1862.

Richards parents were James Moffatt b abt 1798 Glassford and Mary Douglas, b abt 1803 Cambusnethan. The children were.
John abt 1832
Richard 1834
Peter abt 1838
Robert abt 1841
William abt 1843
Catharine abt 1847

I will see if I can make the connection if their is one. I am in contact with some people in the USA who are also following similar lines and who go back to a common ancestor. One of them may have come across your William/Catharine MacKenzie.

Ken

[butterlily]

Hello Ken, Thank you for your reply.

Well at least the families were only two streets away.  So as you say, they very well could have known each other.

With regard to your contacts in USA.  My father told me once that his mother Elizabeth Moffatt Matthews (nee Russell) went to America from ?Scotland with her brother William McKenzie Russell when she was 19  in ?1887  and worked for 6 years in the town of Winsted, Connecticut.  She also had a sister Mary who sent postcards to her sister in New Zealand depicting the First Congregational Church, Winsted referring to it as a new church and that the Methodists had a new church too.  Also that she worked with the
Episcolpal Minister Mr ?Linsberg. or Linsley and another postcard of the Court House, Hamilton, Ontario.  I do not know what happened to Mary and her brother William (we think he was a watchmaker.)   He might have died around about 1894.

Elizabeth also had a sister Isabella who married William Crawford in Airdrie, New Monkland in 1987. 

Looking forward to any further info you may have with regard to the above.

Thank you Ken

Best wishes - Lynette

[Brian H]

Hello butterlily,

I came across your topic with reference to the ship 'RUAPEHU', during a search I was doing on the same name, except my ship arrived in New Zealand in 1922.
It turns out there was two ships by the same name
[1] Launched in 1883, sold for breaking up in 1911.
[2] Launched in 1901, scrapped in 1931.

I noticed in your original message that you were trying to find out the departure date of the RUAPAHU [1] from England (which arrived in New Zealand in 1894).

Our Grandfather Charles Robert Matthews arrived in Auckland on the "RUAPEHU" on 27 August 1894 from England.   We would like to know the date of departure from England............

You may have found out by now, but just in case you are still looking, here is what I have found.

RUAPEHU [1] - Departure Date  -  Departure Port
                            27th June 1894 -   London
                            30th June 1894 -   Plymouth
                            June                    -   London

Hope this helps,
Brian H.

[butterlily]

Hello Brian - Thank you for supplying me with the departure date of the Rhuapehu from London.  No Brian I did not have this information.  That is great to have.   Best wishes - Butterlily

[DotBrennan]

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[merryrose]

Butterlily.  I know this post is closed but I wanted to get in touch with you somehow. 

Your William Russell (born 1832) s/o Robert Russell (s/o Wm Russell/Marg't Miller) and Agnes Baird (d/o James Baird/Eliz Moffatt  gd/o Robert Baird/Ann and John Moffatt/Agnes Bow) was a bother to my Elizabeth Russell (b. 1833) who married Robert Morrison. 

I was hoping to compare histories.  I've recently rediscovered doing genealogy (after a LONG time away) and am having a fun time again.

Joyce

[butterlily]

Hello Joyce

Thank you for your entry to me Joyce.  I too have kept a low profile with regard to family history for a while and it is great to think I have found another relative.  Will contact you again.  Butterlily

[Cawaja]

Joyce,
   When I saw your connection to William Russell (1765-1848), I wanted to contact you.
  I am also descended from William, but through his 2nd marriage to Margaret Wands.
   Wm. Russell (1765-
   Wm. (1820-   who came to Ontario, Canada in about 1842
    Joseph E. (1855-
    George E. (1896-
     Edward G. (1925-
     George E. (1955- --myself
I'd like to exchange info with you.
--George

[merryrose]

Hi George.

It's great to hear from you.      Sure we can share info...in the new year though as I'll be away from home for the next 2 weeks.  I am also in correspondence with a person who is descended from the second family.  I will ask her if you can get in touch with her. 

Merry Christmas,
Joyce