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Henry Godwin, William Godwin
« on: Wednesday 19 April 06 19:46 BST (UK) »
Trying to find more info on birth of my g g grandfather Henry Godwin, servant (b Winchester 1820/21 m Harriet Cooper of Bishops Waltham 1846).
Also his father William Godwin, carpenter.
Can't find anything in parish registers or in IGI, apart from Henry b 1820 to Susannah Godwin (unmarried). Could she have taken the father's name??

Not to be confused with Henry Edward Godwin b Winchester 1821, whose father was William Godwin, grocer.

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Re: Henry Godwin, William Godwin
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi goddo,

Welcome to RootsChat.

I'm afraid the only Henry Godwin baptisms in Hampshire at that time are the two you seem to have found.

It is entirely possible that Henry told a fib about his father, either inadvertantly because his mother did not want him to know, or he made him up to avoid embarassment.  That is more common than you might think.

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Re: Henry Godwin, William Godwin
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 22:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Nell
Thanks for prompt reply.
I must say I suspect that Henry (mother=Susannah Godwin unmarried) is my ancestor. Presumably it would be quite unusual not to have one's child baptised, and as you say, there are no others recorded.
This would also account for why I can't find any brothers or sisters.
If so (1) was Godwin Susannah's real name, or did she take the father's name?
        (2) Did William Godwin, carpenter, really exist?
I have found one example of a baptism in Winchester of a Susannah whose mother was Susannah Boyl (unmarried). Unfortunately the child dies a few days later. But then some years later there is another Susannah born to Joseph Boyl and Susannah. It looks like she eventually got round to marrying the father. So was it common practice for an unmarried mother to just assume the name of the father when she had the child baptised? Maybe so.
As to whether William really existed I did note that two of Henry Godwin's sons became carpenters like their elusive grandfather, so maybe he did.
I would welcome your opinion on my hypotheses, but I imagine I've now hit a brick wall so to speak, and won't get back any further.
However I shall keep trying other leads.

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Re: Henry Godwin, William Godwin
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 April 06 21:28 BST (UK) »
Hi goddo

Susannah's name was likely to have been Godwin - it would be unlikely that she took the name of the reputed father.  Most local clergymen would have been very well aware of  their flock - and their mistakes.  You could look for some sort of records in the parish records for support for Susannah after Henry was born.  There may be something to help there.

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Re: Henry Godwin, William Godwin
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 January 07 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nell

Well we've moved on a bit since I last posted - and you were quite right.
Henry Godwin b1820 was the illegitimate son of Susannah b 1795 St Faith Winchester. In turn she was the daughter of Alexander Godwin and Betty Gover married at St Mary Kalendar Winchester in 1769. Alexander (and family) lived in the parish of St Faith, but he doesn't appear to have been born there. So now I intend to start searching nearby parishes unless anyone can enlighten me. I guess he would have been born about 1745. I suppose land enclosures would have affected population movement at about that time.

I now assume that William Godwin (carpenter) was an invention on the part of Henry, either knowingly or otherwise.


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Re: Henry Godwin, William Godwin
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 January 07 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi goddo,

Don't know if these will be of any use to you - burials in Hampshire of Alexander Godwin:

Winchester St Faith 31 Aug 1774 aged 26  (b abt 1748)
Winchester St Faith 19 Jan 1815  aged 73 (b abt 1742)
Damerham 31 Jul 1825 aged 60 (b abt 1765)

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