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1851/1861 Census
« on: Wednesday 19 April 06 03:30 BST (UK) »
Would someone be willing to do a look up on:

Robert Johnson/Johnstone
Clock & Watch Maker

All I know about him is the above, taken from his son's marriage certificate dated 1876, at which time Robert was listed as deceased.  His son, also Robert, may or may not be listed in the 1851 census, as I believe that may be the year he was born.  I found a Robert Johnson, Clock & Watch Maker, in the Slater's Commercial Directory of Durham, Northumberland, & Yorkshire, 1855, in Darlington, on High row.  Don't know yet if he is mine, but hope this is a clue. ???

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. :)

Roberta

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Re: 1851/1861 Census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 05:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Roberta, ;D

looks like Robert was born after the census - if it's the right family. ;D

1851 Census   Darlington

35 High Row

Robert Johnson, head, 43, Watchmaker & Silversmith, Barnardcastle
Mary, wife, 38, Barnardcastle
Charles M, son, 15, Watchmaker Apprentice, Darlington
Thomas, Softley, nephew, 21, Watchmaker, Barnardcastle
Ann Gargeth, 19, House Servant, Blackwell

HO107/2382
Folio: 339
Page: 26

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Re: 1851/1861 Census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 06:08 BST (UK) »
No son Robert in 1861..... :'(

1861 Census  Darlington

35 High Row

Robert Johnson, head, 43, Watchmaker & Silversmith, Barnard Castle
Mary, wife, 48, Barnard Castle
Jane Chapelrone, 15, General Servant, East Cowton

RG9/3680
Folio: 60
Page: 8

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Re: 1851/1861 Census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 06:28 BST (UK) »
Hi again Roberta,

I thought we might have been on the right track there.

The only Robert Johnston I can see, born in the Darlington area in 1851, has father "John" and he's not a watchmaker.

Do you know where your Robert was born? Was he married in Durham?


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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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Re: 1851/1861 Census
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 12:17 BST (UK) »
Darcy,
Wow!  Thanks for the prompt reply.  The son, Robert, is my gggrandfather.  I have been searching for any info on him for a couple of years.  Unfortunately, he was the first person I started with when doing genealogy.  Not a good choice.  I know very little about him - here's what I do have (this is all about the son, Robert)

Robert David JOHNSTONE married Sarah Ann Taylor in Parish Church, Tynemouth, on Dec. 25th 1876.  He is listed as being 25, a bachelor, occupation Guard, living in Tynemouth, father is Robert Johnstone, deceased, Clock and Watch maker.

Robert and Sarah JOHNSTONE had a son, James William, born April 10, 1877, in Percy Main, Chirton, and Robert is listed as a Railway Guard.

Robert and Sarah also had a daughter, Anne Isabella, born about 1881, in Percy Main, Northumberland, per the 1881 census.

However, in the 1881 census, Sarah JOHNSON is living with her parents, William and Sarah TAYLOR, in Chirton, Percy, Tynemouth, with her two children, William and Anne, but no sign of her husband, Robert.  She is listed as being married.

In 1887, Sarah JOHNSON married Mathew LACKIE.  I have not received the marriage certificate on that one yet.

The only other info I have is a letter from a family member to my ggrandfather (William) commenting on the fact that his father had been around looking for him - and that was in 1908.  Don't know if that was his father, Robert, or his stepfather, Mathew.  The only "father" my ggrandfather ever mentioned was actually his grandfather William Taylor!


Unfortunately, with the names going back and forth from Johnson to Johnstone, I have been researching both.  There are a lot of them!  As I have no birth place for Robert, the son, it has made things very difficult. 

Any thoughts you may have would be greatly appreciated.  I was hoping that by finding a Robert Johnson, clock and watch maker, fairly close to where the son was married, I had hit the jackpot.  Maybe not.  Frustrating.

Thanks for all of your help so far! :)
Roberta

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Re: 1851/1861 Census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 12:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Roberta, ;D

thanks for all the info on Robert.

When I was searcing earlier I noticed a Johnson - I think it might have been the John Johnson that I mentioned - who was a "Gaurd" Hopefully I can find him again just to check it out. I'll get back to you.

Darcy ;)
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Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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Re: 1851/1861 Census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 13:21 BST (UK) »

It was a Robert Johnson c 1817, "Gaurd" living in Darlington. He has a son Robert born c1846.

It's getting near my bedtime so I'll have to leave this until tomorrow. ;D

In the meantime another RootsChatter might find him for you. ;D

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Darcy ;)

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Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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Re: 1851/1861 Census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 April 06 14:42 BST (UK) »

Roberta,

I'm sending you a PM regarding Robert Johnson.

Darcy
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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