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Tom Heap from Accrington in WW1
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 April 05 15:37 BST (UK) »
Hello again to Gerry,

here is an interesting bit for you

this is a link to WW1 signup papers for a Tom Heap here in Canada. He is listed as being born in Accrington, ?????, England - his father is William Henry Heap living at  374 Rosebank (or Nosebank) Lanes, N. Accrington Lanes but he lists his birth as May 25 1893
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc006/383983a.gif
he is listed as signing up  in New WestMinster in British Columbia on Dec 24, 1914

I think this is him in the 1901 Cenus of England
Thomas Heap  8 Lancs Accrington Lancashire Bolton


Good luck

Thelma

Source: Library and Archives Canada's website (www.collectionscanada.ca)

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Heaps from Haslingden
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 April 05 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hello mpb

I read your note about looking for Heaps from Haslingden - here are two of them in Canada in WW1

Benjamin Heap born Dec 17 1874  Haslingden Lancashire, sister is listed as Alice Naomi Heap of 443 Bury Road Bolton - sign up date is Oct 14 1915 in Montreal, Canada

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc006/383970a.gif

John Thomas Heap born Oct 23 1876 Haslingden England sister is listed as Alice Naomi Heap - sign up date is Dec 1 1919 and he is listed as living at 20 Stanley Street Montreal

Good luck

Thelma
Source: Library and Archives Canada's website (www.collectionscanada.ca)

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Re: Tom Heap 1896-1980
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 01 May 05 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Thelma

The Attestion Paper you found for Tom Heap is spot on and many thanks for this.   I did not know he was in Canada as early as 1914 but this document is proof and it shows the correct name of his father and also the address.   The full address is 374 Rose Bank, Manchester Road, Baxenden, Accrington, Lancashire and the family are still there in the 1901 Census.   Tom is shown as aged 4 which  varies from what he says on the Attestion Paper but census returns often have dodgy dates etc.   I really am grateful for you fiinding this information for me.    I'm having trouble downloading a copy, the paper is an odd size and does not fit on A4 .  Changing  to landscape does not solve this as I cannot get the image to fit.   There must be a method but have still to find it.

Gerry

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Re: Tom Heap 1896-1980
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 01 May 05 13:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Sam

Many thanks for sending me the interesting article on Tommy Heap.   From Thelma's reply I now know my great uncle, Tom Heap,  was in Canada in December 1914 when he signed an Attestion Paper for the Canadian Overseas Expiditionary Force.   The 1901 Census for England shows him aged 4 (say 1897), the Attestation record shows his birth as 1893 and he died in 1982 aged 85.   Working backwards it looks as if he was born in 1897 and he gave a wrong birth date on his Attestation paper?   He shows his profession as 'farmer' but whether he was also a jockey and if Tommy Heap and my great uncle is the same person we will never know.  I will follow up your suggestion for the public records look-up and see if anything can be turned up in the archives.   Many thanks for your interest

Gerry


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Re: Tom Heap 1896-1980
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 01 May 05 23:00 BST (UK) »
This has been an interesting message board and thank you to those who gave information on the Haslinden Heaps I have not been able to link them to my new son in laws family yet but I know they must be connected because of name and place similarities. Just have to find the link one more generation back.
Team work really works !!!!
mpb :) 8)

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Re: Tom Heap 1896-1980
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 November 06 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gerry

    My names Phillip Heap, I have just been reading your post about Tom Heap. and hopefully might have something for you. If Your William Henry Heap and Mary Ellen and mine are the same then we may be distant family. I am looking at Jack Heap who is my Grandfathers Father and also the son of William Henry Heap and Mary Ellen. Tom isn't on the 1891 census as he would not of been born as yet. but other brothers include George Tempest, Nicholas and William and they lived on Ashworth St in Baxenden, Lancashire at the time. Jack married Beatrice Sowerbutts of Baxenden and had my grandad John Garsden Heap(known as Jack) who married Ruby Westwell. of Acre Haslingden. at this time john was living at 420 Manchester road Baxenden.john Garsden and ruby  had 3 children Anthony my father shaun and donna. Fred who married Doris  had 3 children Brian, Dorothy and Roy.Harry married Mary and they had 5 children Fred, Barry, Stanley, Robert, and May. also just to complicate things for me, my Great grandmother Ruby Westwells Mother Was Clara Heap so that has gone from heap to Westwell and back to Heap again. Most of the Family now are dotted around the Rossendale valley. with me and my brother with our families in Rising Bridge just up the road from Baxenden and my parents and others living in Haslingden. I even have another family of heaps living accross the road from me and wouldn't even know if we where related in some way. One thing i did miss out was that Jack Heap who would of been your uncle toms brother died when my grandfather was only 9-11 from shrapnell from the first world war. maybe your uncle may have mentioned something like this. if he even knew about it, or maybe he didn't people were not the very best of communicators of family history back in those days.

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Re: Tom Heap 1896-1980
« Reply #15 on: Monday 13 November 06 02:08 GMT (UK) »
Big welcome to rootschat, Margaret & Philip... Not your families, but you may find a connection somewhere...One of the contributors is from B.C.... J.J.
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Re: Tom Heap 1896-1980
« Reply #16 on: Friday 17 November 06 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gerry
    Just to Update you, I know you haven't been on and seen my last post as yet, but your William Henry and Mine are the same. i have John Heap, William Henry's sons Marriage Cert now and it shows them living at 374 Rose bank, Manchester Rd. John Would have been your Great Uncle Toms brother. My Grandad was also named after William henry's brother John Garsden who played cricket and died in 1931 in blackpool i think it was for England, on the censuses though you will see his name as John G or John Gane which Gane is incorrect. anyway welcome to the long winded heap family of baxenden. hope to hear from you sometime maybe to see if you have anything tracing them further back as i am at William Henry's mum and dad John Heap and Ellen at the Dog & Partridge.

yours
Phill

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Re: Tom Heap 1896-1980
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 18 November 06 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Phil

Sorry for the belated reply to your many messages but I haven't  been using my computer this week.   I'm sending you a PM to continue this correspondence.

gerry