Kingwell - Ugborough

[Sensei]

Hi,
I am looking for anything that would help find proof of birth of "Henry Manning Kingwell" c. 1832. His parents would have been Samuel Kingwell b. 1781 -Ugborough, and Jane Mary Manning b.  about 1781 also in Ugborough. They were married either May 25, 18-3 or July 29, 1803, in Ugborough. If not that Samuel, maybe Samuel Kingwell christened Aug 22, 1875, and Mary Newman, about 1808 - everyone from Ugborough - married Sept 3, 1829, in Ermington, Devon.

Tks,

Rick

[saddles]

Hello.

As the birth is pre 1837 then you only have the parish/church
record to depend on,  the IGI has a reference for Henry born
1832 (no date) and parents are as you have given.

Mike.

[Sensei]

Mike,

Tks for the info.... Can you tell me which of the Samel Kingwells is mentioned as his father?  Does the parish record give the name of the mother? What is the name of the Church, please?

Rick...

P.S. Sorry for all the typos in my original posting.

[Sensei]

Mike,

Can you tell me what IGI stands for? I'm not aware of the meaning...
Also, is there a British Census for that period or up-to the 1860's that would mention him? He came to Canada pre-1872 with the British Fusiliers and stayed in Quebec City where he married my wife's great-grandmother.

Rick....

[yonderpeasant]

Here are all the Kingwells I can see in 1841
The 1841 does not give relationships so you cannot always assume that children are with their parents or even that people of the same age heading the family are husband and wife.they could be sister and brother.You can however follow them through the later censuses and find the evidence.


HO107/'246/6/6/6   1841 DEVON
District of Ugborough
Parish of South Brent
Great Ash
Henry Kingwell 40 Ind
Mary                30
Henry                 6
emily                  3
John Windgett    36  M.S.(Male servant)

HO107/218/17/7/8
Ughborough Village
Samuel Kingwell 60 yeoman
Jane                   60
Caroline              13
all born in county

the following is an interesting household as it has both kingwell and Manning
HO107/218/17/9/12
Ughborough Village
Isaac KIngwell  55 Farmer
Mary                55
Sarah               30
Richard             20
Thomas            70   Ind
Samuel Huets   45 M.S
Wm Fursland     15  Ap
Samuel Kingwell 10  Ap
Daniel brimecome14  Ap  (Apprentice) 
Mary Freind         10  F.S  (Female Servant)
Susan Manning     11  Ap       (Apprentice)
John Kingwell       50  Ind
Mary Kingwell       45
Thomas Abraham  9    Ap (Apprentice)
all born in county


HO/107/236/7/5/4   1841    DEVON
South Molton Twitchen
Sundercombe
Richard KIngwell 45   ag Lab
Mary                  46
John                    11
Elizabeth              8
Henry                    6

HO107/218/17/6/6
Ughborough Village
Thomas Kingwell 35  Ag Lab
Mary                   30
George                8
Isaac                  6
Thomas                3
John                 11months
all born in county

HO107/218/17/9/12
Ughborough Village
Isaac KIngwell  55 Farmer
Mary                55
Sarah               30
Richard             20
Thomas            70   Ind
Samuel Huets   45 M.S
Wm Fursland     15  Ap
Samuel Kingwell 10  Ap
all born in county


I have icluded the 2 Henrys as being the same age it will be easy to confuse them if not careful.
 

[Sensei]

Tks... some of these Kingwells are mine....

Rick

[Lendevon]

Ugborough Parish Register:
Baptisms:
20.11.1830  Samuel Philip Manning, son of Samuel & Mary Kingwell
13.1.1833 George Newman, son of Samuel & Mary Kingwell
1.3.1835   Isaac
103.1838  Thomas
2.8.1840  John
all sons of Samuel & Mary Kingwell
There are No baptisms earlier than 1830 at Ugborough for that couple.

[Sensei]

Thanks for the info... that Richard Kingwell and Mary Newman may have been Henry Manning Kingwell's brother.
In searching I have found that the Kingwells were originally "Kingwill"
Is there a KINGWILL from Ugborough?

[saddles]

Hello.

A search of the NBI shows 29 Kingwill 1748 - 1900 all are
in Somerset.

Mike.