Edward Winter of Leybourne

[beardmore21]

slight puzzle again - having worked out that Maria was with Edward but DIDN'T marry him - I wondered if she went to him because Harry had died, but can't initially find a death for him? Perhaps she just left him which might explain no marriage with Edward - but I can't find Harry on the 1861 census either?
Thank you for the help before, Geoff - we have now used email to start putting the cousins in contact.

[Geoff-E]

slight puzzle again - having worked out that Maria was with Edward but DIDN'T marry him - I wondered if she went to him because Harry had died, but can't initially find a death for him?

He was Harvey (not Harry) - I wonder who this was (in Wales), he ought to be in the 1861 census

Deaths Jun 1861 
SCOTT    Harvey        Holywell    11b   219

[lezhow]

Geoff_E - your post of of 17/09/2009 has

Marriage 2 May 1836 at Louth
Harvey SCOTT to Maria ATKIN

I've searched all over the web - as it is somewhat difficult to get to any of the historical societies or local libraries from here in Australia - on how to get Louth records but can find nothing .

As George Scott Winter was my 2 x ,great grandfather can you tell me where you got the information from or where I can get a copy of the parish records from.

Thanks Lez

[Geoff-E]

FreeReg is the simplest to find http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=468012

[lezhow]

Thanks for that Geoff-E - I'll have to use it for some other records that I have been stuck on.

[lezhow]

For any future researchers: further investigation proves that Harvey Scott was jailed to three months hard labour for bigamy.

Newspaper articles of the time - 1861 / 1862 - mention the court case and in doing so confirm

1 ) Harvey Scott married Maria Atkin(son) in Louth in early 1836
2 ) They had at least three sons John, Matthew and George [need to confirm Matthew's details and that he did soon die after birth]
3 ) 1851 Census - Kingston-upon-Hull shows Harvey, Maria, John and George (males all from Louth and Maria from Alford)
4 ) 1861 Census - Sculcoates - Maria now showing with surname of Winter - Edward Winter [head of family] - Maria born in Alford, also son George Winter (born Louth) and niece Sarah Day from Louth
5 ) Oct 1861 Harvey Scott married Harriet Ann Eden
6 ) Court case starts from Jan 1862
7 ) Court case details (as per Hull newspaper) states that Harvey said he had been a widow for 21 years but then later details that Maria had been living  another man (Winter) for 23 years
8 ) The 06th March 1862 "Assizes and General Gaol Delivery held at the Castle of York" shows Harvey Scott charge with bigamy and sentenced to 3 months hard labour.

At this stage there does not seem to be any actual marriage record for Maria Atkin(son) Scott to Edward Winter and I don't know how to go about finding out if Edward Winter did actually adopt George Scott, nor what happened to his older brother John - something else to keep me busy.

Added to this George Scott Winter seems to have followed somewhat in his parent's footsteps as he married Ann(e) Maria Hill of Yarmouth in 1862 in Hull; can't find any births for them or that she died however in 1868 George Scott Winter married Sarah Jane Taylor and begat all the Scott-Winter's.

Some interesting times ahead.

[Geoff-E]

Burial 3 Aug 1841 Louth, Matthew SCOTT (inf)

[lezhow]

Thanks for that Geoff-E, already using that info as a started I have requested copies of Matthew's birth and death certificates from the GRO just to confirm I have the right details / person / relation - takes 3 to 4 weeks to get here to Aus. so just have to wait and see.

[Geoff-E]

I wonder who Harvey's "wife" in 1861 was ... Sarah 35 Louth