desperately stuck

[wileman 121]

good morning i have spent most of last night and this morning trying to solv this one and hope someone can help here we go

i know for certain my gt gt grandad was george wileman and was born around kingsbury nuneaton hurley

so i thought i found him george wileman b 1886 kingsbury to charles wileman and mary jane barker
and he married my gt gt grandma adelaide salisbury in nuneaton in 1913 so he must have been born before 1897 or he couldnt have married

anyway i found this info yesterday which leads me to think he isnt my gt gt grandad as my gt grandad was born in 1921 any help would be welcome 


    In Memory of
    Stoker 1st Class GEORGE WILEMAN

    308500, H.M.S. "Queen Mary.", Royal Navy
    who died age 29
    on 31 May 1916
    Son of Mr. and Mrs. C. Wileman, of 37, Coventry Rd., Kingsbury,
    Warwickshire.
    Remembered with honour
    PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

    Commemorated in perpetuity by
    the Commonwealth War Graves Commission

[mc8]

what was your gt gdfathers name?
Monique

[UKgirl]

Usually, the Commonwealth War Graves Commission lists the wife's name; sometimes both the wife's name and the parents' names.

Since the wife's name is not listed, perhaps it is simply a coincidence and "the Stoker" George Wileman was a single man.

After all, George is a popular name.

UKgirl

PS.
An alternative explanation may be that a lonely war widow found some happiness and then gave birth to your great grandfather. Not an uncommon story for those days.

[wileman 121]

my gt grandfather was earnest samuel wileman born in nuneaton c 1921 regards jason

[wileman 121]

that could be an explanation uk girl but she would have found happiness another 7 times between 1916 and 1923 and told them all there father was george wileman

as her and george had 8 children together all in nuneaton regards jason 

[mc8]

how about this George Wileman in the 1901
brother in law age 14, lorry boy (carman) b Hurley
living at 9 Terrace d? Lawrence st, civil parish birmingham
with george bartlet 29, railway carman b henley in andrew
florance a, 28, b kingsbury
cyril 11m b birmingham
rg13/2838, 109,15

I'll have a look for florance on the 1891

[UKgirl]

Hello again,  

Well it's definitely a good thing to know that she had SO MUCH happiness . I am very pleased for her.

So, it looks as if it was simply a coincidence?? Your George's death must have been much later.

UKgirl

[mc8]

no sorry-that one leads back to Charles and Mary Jane -fanny and George are at home with them in 1891
Monique

[wileman 121]

thanks for looking i just keep getting stuck and comeing back to dead ends the only thing i could really have a go at is ordering george and adelaides marriage cert but i dont have a clue how to do that who to phone i know they married nuneaton in 1913 ive seen in on freebmd ? regards jason