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Cantle family - Bitton
« on: Wednesday 13 October 04 09:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm currently tracing the Cantle family and have reached Hannah and Joseph Cantle who were living in Maesteg, South Wales from the 1830's. Census info shows that they were both born in Bitton near Keynsham but I have reached a dead end here.  Does anyone have any information on the Cantle family in the Gloucestershire area and in particular anything on Joseph and Hannah.
Walford - York, London,Stratford St Mary, Great Wilbraham
Cantle - Maesteg, Bitton, Keynsham
Hawker - Bradford Peverel, Mosterton,Thorncombe
Phillips & Rees - Pembrokeshire
Davies - Glamorganshire
Jones - Cwmavon
Hind & Lowe - Whitwell, Derbyshire
Sanderson - York
Leitch - Pittessie, Collessie,
McWilliam - Port Glasgow
Beck - Dumfries, Port Glasgow
Birkett - Collessie, Abdie

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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 October 04 10:08 BST (UK) »
Hi
Found this death for a Joseph Cantle and Hannah
 
 
Name:    Cantle, Joseph
Record Type:    Deaths
Quarter:    June
Year:    1858
District:    Keynsham 
County:    Gloucestershire Somerset
Volume:    5c
Page:    506 
 
Name:    CANTLE, Hannah
Record Type:    Deaths
Age at death:    87
Quarter:    March
Year:    1874
District:    Keynsham 
County:    Gloucestershire Somerset
Volume:    5c
Page:    549

HOPE THIS IS OF SOME HELP

NICKY
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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 October 04 13:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Nicki

Thanks so much for your help.  The last thing I have on Joseph was that he was living with Hannah & his family in Maesteg in Wales in the 1851 census but by the time we reach 1871 he's dead as Hannah appears as a widow.  I cant find any record of Joseph's death in Wales.  Hannah died in 1878 in Wales.  Its their early life I'd really love to trace as there are so many Cantle's living in the Keynsham area that they must be related to my family in some way.

On the 1841 census Joseph is logged as 25 years of age and Hannah 35 but in the 1851 census he's showing as 36 and she's 44 so its there or there abouts.

Another issue I need to address is that in the various census Joseph & Hannah's grandchildren are living with them  but its not clear from various church records if Amelia (Joseph & Hannah's daughter) is the children's mother or if she ever married. 

Indications from church records suggest she was the mother but its hard to believe she'd have had a number of children without marrying. If she did then the children shouldnt have kept the surname Cantle and consequently that shouldnt have been my maiden name!!! 

I cant find any records of Amelia marrying. Her son John (my great grandfather) was born in 1863 but the only one I can find that fits the bill was born in Keynsham. The only thing I could think is that she'd gone to relatives in the area to have her baby. Mind you it doesnt explain the subsequent kids who were born in Maesteg or the disappearign boyfriend/husband

Answers to this riddle would be very welcome!!!


Walford - York, London,Stratford St Mary, Great Wilbraham
Cantle - Maesteg, Bitton, Keynsham
Hawker - Bradford Peverel, Mosterton,Thorncombe
Phillips & Rees - Pembrokeshire
Davies - Glamorganshire
Jones - Cwmavon
Hind & Lowe - Whitwell, Derbyshire
Sanderson - York
Leitch - Pittessie, Collessie,
McWilliam - Port Glasgow
Beck - Dumfries, Port Glasgow
Birkett - Collessie, Abdie

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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 November 04 22:34 GMT (UK) »
I have a copy of the wedding certificate of john cantle and Alice hawker 2nd April 1894.  John cantle's address was 6 tonycwd Row, Maesteg, his bride lived at 17 John Street Maesteg.  John's father is Joseph Cantle Deceased and listed as a copper worker, john was a collier.  They married at Llangynwyd parish church county of glamorgan. John cantle was 31 at the time.   Born 1863 died 1947.They had a son Cliffton Cantle b 1906 d 1990 who married phyllis m thomas -Croesshaw, their daughter is moira cantle, who is a distant cousin of mine. I'm related through Amelia Hawker , my great grandmother, SISTER OF ALICE.  The Hawkers were from Weymouth in Dorcet and they came to maesteg as children, Amelia and Alice's father was Eli Hawker.  hope this is relevant marcia


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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 January 05 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for everyone's help.  My reat grandmother is indeed Alice so the info is very useful.  Still cant trace Joseph and Hannah back to their early life in Bitton, England , they moved to  Wales and Hannah certainly died in Wales so Nicky's info cannot relate to my Joseph and Hannah.  Shame.

Walford - York, London,Stratford St Mary, Great Wilbraham
Cantle - Maesteg, Bitton, Keynsham
Hawker - Bradford Peverel, Mosterton,Thorncombe
Phillips & Rees - Pembrokeshire
Davies - Glamorganshire
Jones - Cwmavon
Hind & Lowe - Whitwell, Derbyshire
Sanderson - York
Leitch - Pittessie, Collessie,
McWilliam - Port Glasgow
Beck - Dumfries, Port Glasgow
Birkett - Collessie, Abdie

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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 September 05 01:01 BST (UK) »
Do you know if this family contains Glenys Cantle from Maesteg, She was my grandmother and I would like to trace back my ancestors

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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 September 05 18:19 BST (UK) »
My fathers family are Cantle's from Maesteg but I dont know of any Glenys in their line.  When was she born and is that her maiden name.
Walford - York, London,Stratford St Mary, Great Wilbraham
Cantle - Maesteg, Bitton, Keynsham
Hawker - Bradford Peverel, Mosterton,Thorncombe
Phillips & Rees - Pembrokeshire
Davies - Glamorganshire
Jones - Cwmavon
Hind & Lowe - Whitwell, Derbyshire
Sanderson - York
Leitch - Pittessie, Collessie,
McWilliam - Port Glasgow
Beck - Dumfries, Port Glasgow
Birkett - Collessie, Abdie

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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 September 05 14:53 BST (UK) »
Alex

I may just have made contact with you on GenesReunited, someone on there called Alex had a Glenys Cantle in his records.  I've discovered that my grandfather's brother was called Albert Cantle and that he had a daughter called Glenys.  So we may be related!

Helen
Walford - York, London,Stratford St Mary, Great Wilbraham
Cantle - Maesteg, Bitton, Keynsham
Hawker - Bradford Peverel, Mosterton,Thorncombe
Phillips & Rees - Pembrokeshire
Davies - Glamorganshire
Jones - Cwmavon
Hind & Lowe - Whitwell, Derbyshire
Sanderson - York
Leitch - Pittessie, Collessie,
McWilliam - Port Glasgow
Beck - Dumfries, Port Glasgow
Birkett - Collessie, Abdie

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Re: Cantle family - Bitton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 July 10 13:23 BST (UK) »
Some notes on the Cantles, Maesteg.

The Cantle family came to the Llynfi Valley after J.H. Allen opened a spelter (zinc) works in the valley in 1831. Bristol was an established centre of zinc production and, during the 1830s, the Cantles were among about twenty Bristolians with experience of spelter-making  recruited by Allen for his new works. He built Toncwd Row for the workers, and in 1841 the majority of the residents of the Row were Bristolian spelter works. The 1841 Census lists the Row wrongly as Tonnewydd Row, it was really Toncwd Row. Later the Row was renamed McGarel Row for a few years before reverting to Toncwd Row. The Row was demolished about 1970.
By 1851 a number of the Bristol workers had left the valley for spelter works in Skewen and Swansea; the Cantles remained in the district.