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Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 19 October 04 19:01 BST (UK) »
 
Thanks evryone for your help but still can't find him. There is a Joseph spencer born in Flintshire in 1816 and I'm thinking  maybe my Joseph lied about his age and the fact that he also had a wife in Oldbury!
There seems to be only one Joseph spencer born around this time in flintshire  (1816) but it doesn't tie in with my Joseph.

Still searching if anyone can shed any light or make any suggestions I'm still trying to track him down or connect the Joseph Spencer born 1816. I feel sure this 'is' him but can't prove it.

Michelle
Spencer, Naylor, Reynolds, Dunn, cresswell, smallman

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Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 January 05 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I just about to post my Spencer interest when I read your message dont know if this helps either of you but i will post it anyway this is from
 1841 census for Holywell LDS Microfilm #0464325
Naidy March Townshipof calcots Holywell

Joseph Spencer age 25 miner born 1816 in county
Sarah Spencer age 20 wife
William Spencer age 3
James age 1

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Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thanks everyone for your messages, keep um' comming, was very interested to read your msge Audry, although joseph spencers birthplace is given as Fullbrook on the 1851 census for oldbury west mids year 1818/19 I'm keeping an open mind. Be glad to hear of ANY Joseph Spencers in around Holywell/Halkyn area. Thanks all v much again!!
Spencer, Naylor, Reynolds, Dunn, cresswell, smallman

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Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 October 11 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi everybody,
I am probably about to make the story more complicated but you never know perhaps it will bring some of the threads together. First of all Fullbrook. The following extract from the Flintshire Records Office (a fantastic resource with extremely helpful & dedicated staff) clarifies the connection:

Administrative and biographical history: The Grosvenor family of Eaton Hall, Cheshire, owned estates in Denbighshire and Flintshire from the early 17th century, which included considerable mineral properties. Richard Grosvenor, 1st Baronet, acquired the lead mining, coal mining and stone quarrying interests of the lordships of Bromfield and Yale, Denbighshire, and Coleshill and Rhuddlan, Flintshire, in 1601. After 1750, the easily-accessible veins on Halkyn Mountain had been worked out, and activity moved to the Maeshafn-Llanarmon area, Denbighshire. The Grosvenors' estates in Halkyn, Northop. and adjoining parishes were purchased from Thomas Jones in 1704, and added to by later purchases, until it was sold in 1913. The Halkyn estate was centred on Halkyn Hall until the first Marquess of Westminster built Halkyn Castle in 1825-1826. The Grosvenor family acquired the manor of Holywell, Fulbrook and Greenfield in 1809. St Winefride's Well, a centre of Catholic pilgrimage that was part of the manor, was leased from 1817. From at least the end of the 18th century the Halkyn estate and mineral properties were administered by an agent at Halkyn, while the Denbighshire estates continued to be run from Eaton.
The link is http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=28&coll_id=2377&expand=

Now the complications! My interest is in the Bloor family who farmed mainly in and around Whitford Flintshire in the late 1700s. Thomas Bloor (b. 1753) married Mary Edwards in Llanasa in 1780. She was born in Flintshire but it is pretty certain he was not. They had many children one of whom one was Joseph (b. 1787 Whitford). He married Ann Phillips in 1815 and they had 4 children. It is here that there is an intriguing connection with this exchange of information. Their daughter Mary (b. 1817 Cwm) married William Brooks (b. 1816 Cwm). They had many children but a son John (b. 1841 Cwm) married and moved to Victoria Australia and it is from there that I have retrieved the information from Mary (Bloor) Brooks down as it appears in the Spenceley & SPENCER in the World Tree Project on Ancestry! I am trying to get in touch with the owner of the tree because it is not clear where the Spencers come into it but perhaps the correspondents to this post may know already. I hope so and if someone does, is there a Bloor connection?
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Alan


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Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 January 12 15:21 GMT (UK) »
If it's of any help, I used to live in Fullbrook, Halkyn.....I would message you michelle but I can't find a link to do so  ???

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Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 January 12 16:30 GMT (UK) »
You need to make a minimum of 3 board postings before using the Private Message system, Vincent.

Hope this helps

Katie (another Flintshire resident :))
WRY - Chambers, Burgin, Green, Bradley, Jefferson, Bates, Widdowson, Vickers; DUR - Brennan; LKS - Conway, McGunnigal; KEN - Harrison; GLA - Thomas, Jones; STI - Conway; SSX - Coleman, Freeman, Jefferson; NTT - Jefferson, Chambers; DBY - Chambers, Smith; NBL - Harrison; TIP - Conway

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Re: Flintshire. Fullbrook, Bagilt: Joseph spencer
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 10 January 12 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Ahhh - thanks for the heads-up Katie.